12-09-2010, 11:03 PM
#191
12-10-2010, 12:05 AM
#192
If the video is the ending to HoTS, Kerrigan saying let the Zerg roam free and let fate decide is a plot for LoTV for the Hybrids to take control or take over the Zerg and use them for their own schemes.
12-10-2010, 01:19 AM
#193
Since I don't want to possibly spoil it, I'm gonna put my comment on this in spoiler tags.
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Well, now I guess Blizzard can't just keep the same ending, since it's been leaked in its entirety so soon. Or perhaps this might just be a fake ending, created mainly for studying purposes to try and find a proper ending, or may just be one of the possible endings that were explored for the game, but not used.
Last edited by Alex06; 12-10-2010 at 01:21 AM.
Kudos to Arkceangel for the Terran avatar and sig!
12-10-2010, 01:28 AM
#194
Or maybe you could just as easily take scenes from stories like Starwars, LotR, Battlestar Galactica, The Dark Knight that are actually awesome and make them look like shit when removed from the context of the character and the plot development.
Tassadars final speech in SCI was cheesy as hell and would have been shit without context, but it was actually one of the best parts of the series wasn't it.
Apply the same thought patterns to this previs keeping in mind that these things often merely represent on of multiple choices that story tellers make in story development.
12-10-2010, 01:42 AM
#195
Shhh...Don't point out the plot holes! Blizzard's new storytelling philosophy is to tell a cool story, despite all the plotholes it is bound to create. (IE, WoW & WoL...possibly D3, too, with Diablo's return (oh wait, he's dead, so they say! (yeah right, "I've heard that one before")))
In all seriousness, maybe it's just that Blizzard storytellers have lost their touch or...vision, whatever.
Or perhaps it's just that Mengsk needed to keep Kerrigan alive for some reason...Perhaps he needed her to do something. Or, he wanted to control her and the Zerg. (Listen to what Kerrigan says, that the Zerg will not be slaves (so not to the Dark Voice, and not to Mengsk), then that theory kinda makes sense).
Last edited by Alex06; 12-10-2010 at 01:45 AM.
Kudos to Arkceangel for the Terran avatar and sig!
12-10-2010, 03:21 AM
#196
12-10-2010, 04:44 AM
#197
Ugh. I am absolutely disgusted.
I just... I cannot even...
Ugh. OK, let's try to be a little more constructive.
1. Arcturus's death -- the most anti-climactic thing I've ever seen. I don't know what Blizzard thinks, but at this point I enjoy the Arcturus character more than I enjoy the Kerrigan character. That doesn't mean he gets a free lease on life and should never die. All it means is that his death should not only be about Kerrigan, it should be ABOUT HIM. This felt like a purely Kerrigan moment, where he is presented as nothing but pure antagonist despite all of the other quirks of his we've had over the years. Where is the Arcturus of the Inauguration Speech, with dreams of presiding over an empire and not just killing Kerrigan after she demolishes HIS ENTIRE CITY?
2. The universe feels absolutely depopulated -- think back to WC3 days. Between the game and expansion, you had Medivh, Terenas, Arthas, Archimonde, Mannoroth, Thrall, Grom, Malfurion, and Illidan all making key appearances. SC2 feels absolutely depopulated. Over the two first parts we have Raynor, Tychus, Kerrigan, Mengsk, and Zeratul. That's NEARLY HALF of WC3's list. WOL ended with... Kerrigan and Raynor. HOTS ends with... Kerrigan and Raynor. It's like they're the universe's supersquad. Some kind of superheroes who deal with all the trouble that comes up. It's ridiculous and inappropriate.
3. Plotholes, plotholes, plotholes, UGH. How many times has Mengsk had an opportunity to use this button over the course of Brood War, WOL, and pre-ending HOTS? How does Raynor sneak up on people in a giant Marine suit and why does he manage to do this alone? This whole scene feels convoluted and contrived. Mengsk couldn't have had ONE other person in the room just in case someone showed up with Kerrigan? To shoot them? Uh oh, they stepped on my remote, my brilliant last-second diabolus ex machina rube goldberg scheme is totally fucked. If only I had kept one guard with a gun!
4. Raynor's "Change of plans" -- worst line ever? In anything? Maybe?
The only thing I liked was the homage to Watchmen. Beautiful. Other than that, I might be sick.
Last edited by pure.Wasted; 12-10-2010 at 04:50 AM.
12-10-2010, 04:45 AM
#198
But we have context. We have StarCraft, and Brood War, and WoL (for that matter). We know these characters, we know (more or less) what their backstory and emotional baggages are. We can envision what a standoff between these characters may be like. And compared to what this kind of standoff could have been, this little cinematic falls short. Understand this, I'm not complaining about things such as "oh Kerrigan killed Mengsk, how predictable I just KNEW this would happen e.t.c. e.t.c.", I am complaining about how this particular scene feels, the fact that Mengsk is shown as too much of a stock villain (not that he isn't an antagonist in the broad sense of the word, but in StarCraft he was a real character who could've been either charismatic and commanding or mendacious and petty with hints of megalomania flashing through, and it was clear he definitely didn't see himself as the villain, and wasn't a villain for quite a number of people as well, he wasn't all "one note" the way he is in SC 2). You could have one cinematic with Kerrigan killing Mengsk and it would've been a terrific one, and you could have another cinematic portraying the same basic event that would totally suck. It all depends on the specific dialogue you write, the specific camera angles and movements you use, the music, the dramatic tone of it to sum it up. This one is kind of mediocre, you can predict almost every beat and turn of it before it happens, and of the two surprising events one is the Kerrigan clone (which is ultimately irrelevant) and the other is Raynor's intervention which isn't all that surprising. It's a nice cinematic by itself, there's some tension, it has quite a good flow, beautiful visuals (that will be even better in final rendered version), but knowing the players in the drama, so to say, it could've ended up saying much more about them than it ultimately does.
Last edited by Eligor; 12-10-2010 at 05:10 AM.
12-10-2010, 05:22 AM
#199
Arcturus
At last. I must say, I’m disappointed in your progress. I imagined you would be here sooner. Tell me - did it trouble you to murder my elite guard?
Kerrigan:
Did it trouble you when you left me to die on Tarsonis?
Arcturus:
No - I had faith in you. In your ability to hate. In your self-righteous indignation.
Kerrigan:
Lies. You cannot have foreseen all of this.
Arcturus:
Eternity is relentless, Kerrigan.
12-10-2010, 05:23 AM
#200
I don't see what has so many people convinced this is the real thing...