An Idea of Protoss Reproduction

[Norfindel]

My idea was more like they carry their offpring in their bodies much like we do, but they actually lose all that matter from their bodies, because they don't recover matter fast like we do, so the female is pretty much crippled for a serious amount of time.

Artanis was considered young with 262 years. They could take like 200 years to reach full body size. How many years does it take to recover all the matter given to the baby? Probably a bunch.

[Hellgrinder]

I always just assumed that Protoss lifespans were just 10 times the length of human lifespans, and that Artanis would be considered the Protoss version of someone in their mid-twenties, considering it said that he was young for that position.

And also, if Protoss did reproduce like that, then the Xel'Naga probably wouldn't have considered them having "Purity of Form". While I too, believe that the Protoss have a low birth-rate, maybe that's because the female spends at least a decade infertile after giving birth.

[GnaReffotsirk]

Well, in terms of purity of form, I see it this way:

Since they are not duplicates, rather parts of a single whole that is Protoss (now there's going to be points to discuss about this), or that great one where each one was born from, and that they have developed and improved these parts that each one is gifted with, then they are pure in form in the beginning. I doubt though that this would be the case now since a lot have been lost since the Overmind arrived.

The Overmind assimilates and takes from others to develop the whole that is the swarm, which itself is the center of. The overmind can be called as the Zerg, it is the Zerg with many parts of itself duplicated and made manifest.

Now, the Protoss on the other hand (should the case the OP implies be taken into account) does not copy, but rather hand down these parts, and develop the pieces each individual has as their responsibility -- which of course makes them each as they are.

In form (whatever that means really, maybe in the likes of having watched a dancer and having to say, "good form" or in disciplines like in martial arts) they are intact, and complete. Unlike the Overmind and the swarm, which in itself is nothing but an organism that assimilates beings/forms/dna/what not.

The core of the idea is that the Protoss are not only Psionically gifted, but are born from psionic energies. They in turn manifested as organisms to develop their psionic energies through the development and mastery of their physical bodies, and then would return to the "Khala" and make it more rich. This of course is unknown to an average Protoss, but religious fanatics might cling and preach this out.

Basically, their nature being a race that retains a forerunner's actual parts and develop them further, and make them pure, refined, perfected in the long run, kind of defines the Purity of Form that the Protoss is.

The overmind or the zerg, in contrast, employs another race's attributes, and mix and match to create the strains. It makes these parts uber or what not, but it has no ability to develop it's nature. The Zerg remains Zerg, and so it has purity of essence.

[Zeraszana]

Well, in terms of purity of form, I see it this way:

The core of the idea is that the Protoss are not only Psionically gifted, but are born from psionic energies. They in turn manifested as organisms to develop their psionic energies through the development and mastery of their physical bodies, and then would return to the "Khala" and make it more rich. This of course is unknown to an average Protoss, but religious fanatics might cling and preach this out.

Basically, their nature being a race that retains a forerunner's actual parts and develop them further, and make them pure, refined, perfected in the long run, kind of defines the Purity of Form that the Protoss is.

hmm..cool..so...does this mean the dark templar have no purity of form?

[GnaReffotsirk]

hmm..cool..so...does this mean the dark templar have no purity of form?

Nice idea.

They are Protoss, only have dislodged themselves from the link. I'm not sure if they return to the Khala in their deaths.

We could add, "maybe this is why the Templar consider the outcasts as something different." Makes sense to me.

[Zeraszana]

Nice idea.

They are Protoss, only have dislodged themselves from the link. I'm not sure if they return to the Khala in their deaths.

We could add, "maybe this is why the Templar consider the outcasts as something different." Makes sense to me.

they don't return to the khala...you got proof of that because the preservers can't access their memories but i still think that they have their purity of form, just that it has nothing to do with the khala (same thing with reproduction, although it makes for a cool explanation of things), i still go with the idea that the younglings develop inside of the female protoss in some sort of energy form (dunno how to say it better lol) and after they become ''independent/stable'' eg. they can sustain their energies on their own, not requiring the mother any longer to sustain them, they get ''transferred'' to a crysalis of sort (think pylon shape/khaydarin with the nutrient fluids and capabilities of stasis cells but rather than freezing the individual it contains it till it ''grows'' a physical body - about the growth -> remember how stetmann muses how it would be impossible for the crystal to grow cuz it has nothing to grow from? in the logs ) and then after the individual ''matures'' inside of it he/she get ''teleported'' (think prism teleport) outside of it (could be used as an explanation as to why we never saw any baby protoss, but rather ''smaller'' - if you count the mangas ) so it would make for a good explanation (in my opinion) as to why it takes so long (double time to mature and develop) and why it happens so slowly (few engage in such a responsibility) cuz presumably the female gets weaker and more vulnerable to both physical and emotional/mental things, so both the male and female (and possibly others too, like elders, healers etc.) would be out of the question of doing anything else but taking care of the female and the youngling

any thoughts or holes about this?

[GnaReffotsirk]

I think it adds up. Nice.

[Zeraszana]

I think it adds up. Nice.

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[Hellgrinder]

The core of the idea is that the Protoss are not only Psionically gifted, but are born from psionic energies. They in turn manifested as organisms to develop their psionic energies through the development and mastery of their physical bodies, and then would return to the "Khala" and make it more rich. This of course is unknown to an average Protoss, but religious fanatics might cling and preach this out.

While that is physically possible, converting energy into mass is no small undertaking, and almost no natural phenomena would be able to pull that off, to say nothing about organic bodies. The only thing able to do something like that would be space-time, and even then, the energies that create these particles always create the antiparticle of them, so the two annihilate almost instantaneously to repay the energy debt. The only way this energy can become matter without going back to energy is if it's near a black hole, and one of the particles falls in, allowing the other to escape.

Also, the fact that Zeratul was about 400 years younger than Raszagal, who was very young at the time the Dark Templar were banished, seems to show that Protoss don't need the Khala to reproduce, as Zeratul was most likely born on Shakuras.

A nice theory, but inconsistent with SC lore, and having energy requirements that are nothing short of insane.

[GnaReffotsirk]

While that is physically possible, converting energy into mass is no small undertaking, and almost no natural phenomena would be able to pull that off, to say nothing about organic bodies. The only thing able to do something like that would be space-time, and even then, the energies that create these particles always create the antiparticle of them, so the two annihilate almost instantaneously to repay the energy debt. The only way this energy can become matter without going back to energy is if it's near a black hole, and one of the particles falls in, allowing the other to escape.

Also, the fact that Zeratul was about 400 years younger than Raszagal, who was very young at the time the Dark Templar were banished, seems to show that Protoss don't need the Khala to reproduce, as Zeratul was most likely born on Shakuras.

A nice theory, but inconsistent with SC lore, and having energy requirements that are nothing short of insane.

It doesn't necessarily mean that way. But I see a very interesting subject here.