Would anyone be interested into lessons? (for money)

[Skyze]

With my recent Top 200 NA ranking, I think that can show people that I at least know a little in what im doing, and gives me some clout in the gaming world, at least a little.. My win ratio is in the upper half of most of them, besides A+ gamers like KiwiKaki/Select/Huk. Didnt need 600+ games to get to 1400 ;o

WILL ALSO SAY, I have more than enough knowledge of Terran and Zerg also, I played terran all phase 2 of the beta and the start of retail, and also a few weeks of zerg. Not just for Protoss players!

A little background on me; I am 23, been playing Starcraft since I was 12. I have been mainly a 2v2 player, getting on a few sponsored teams in WC3 and then in the SC2 Beta, now I am a free agent due to my lessened playing time, but I still play enough to get a Top 200 NA ranking ^^ I am not the best mechanical player, yet I understand all aspects of the game and know the thought processes of pros, from both sides of the pond (WC3 style and BW style) even if I myself can slack at times.

I have taught in the Team Liquid Coaching League for a season, where we took D-/D players and made them into C players. It worked quite decently, most of my team did improve largely in skill yet their issue is dedication/playing enough. I will stress that for anyone to want to get better, you need to play enough per week. like at least 20 games a week. That is a given, but the other aspect of improving is knowing what you are doing wrong, and knowing what you need to improve.

So anyways, I feel like I could help players, as long as they know the basics of the game (I'd say Silver/gold level players would gain the most out of it) but I can try with anyone at all, even diamond players. As long as you have dedication and a desire to learn, I can teach you the tools to become a better player.

I figured it was worth a thread at least, since I am hard for cash right now and any extra bit can help. I would not be charging as much as Incontrol/"gosucoaching" obviously (even though I've beaten most of them), Im willing to work with people, as long as it is enough money to make it worth my time (not going to do an hour for $1 or something).. but eh I was thinking like $10 an hour to start? Lets see if I actually get a few people, if I do and time becomes more of an issue, maybe I'd have to up it then.

[Blazur]

LMFAO!

http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingGamer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=104154
http://www.google.com

[Skyze]

Those are not 1 on 1 personal settings. Sure, you may learn small things, but the learning you get when someone is right there dissecting your every replay/match, is quite significantly different than watching Day[9].

Anyways, like I said, It would benefit mostly people who are between the silver/platinum levels, who are missing most of the small things that separate them from higher rank players. I can show them what they are doing wrong/not doing at all and what to look for in their own replays to understand why they lost games.

[kyr200]

A grand sport like Starcraft is not something to be learned. It is something you jump into. Experience could never be taught.

[Hammy]

LMFAO!

http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThinkingGamer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=104154
http://www.google.com

Great post. Very helpful as always. (sarcasm detectors going crazy yet?)


I think the gosucoaching stuff is working decently, so I guess there's a niche there, but I doubt you'll find that kind of mentality on SCL tbh.

Also, you have to realize that you're taking this to another level and that if you want to be professional about it you can't just spar with people and point out faults. They could post their replays for that and get the same, if not better feedback.
You'd need to create original content and a comprehensive list of guidelines.

I don't know how much thought you've put into this, but I'm just saying it takes a bit more work than it seems if you want to provide a high quality service which is really different from what's provided for free through the community...

On a final note, people don't care all that much about rank imo. If you want this endeavor to work you might need some e-fame. Win tourneys, get your name out there, etc...
Gosucoaching relies more heavily on their coaches names than on their SC2 skill.

[Maul]

There's no point bashing Skyze for offering this. I've paid over $1000 for poker coaching and it's more than paid for itself. I could of always just used the resources on twoplustwo.com (and I still do) but getting coached in anything really speeds up the learning process and helps you identify bad habits early on.

There is a difference between poker and Starcraft coaching, however, as a solid poker player is virtually a license to print money whereas Starcraft is for entertainment. However, if you really enjoy the game and don't mind spending $10-50 for a few lessons to point you in the right direction then that's great. It's not much money and I'm sure the lessons you learn will be highly beneficial for your game.

Again though, if you aren't interested in the service then you don't have to pay for it, but don't try and hurt Skyze's opportunities because that's just bad mannered.

[Twilice]

No I would not.

[Andrew]

Again though, if you aren't interested in the service then you don't have to pay for it, but don't try and hurt Skyze's opportunities because that's just bad mannered.

I agree! Yes you could just go on youtube but its not the same thing as acually playing the game, so just because you think its a bad idea doesnt mean it is because im sure a few people could use a little boost and he aint charging a huge amount...10$ an hour XD thats barly minimum wage if you think about it! (atleast in Canada).best of luck with the coaching im sure a few people would take this oppertunity.
Also nice on the poker thing maul that is pretty true if you can play poker well you could get mass cash.

[Skyze]

Exactly, $10 an hour is chump change.

Anyways, thought I would at least offer, and if anyone really wants to get better at SC, then this is how to do it. You can watch day9 and husky all day long but if you dont know what the problems in your play is, how can you correct it? And believe me, 90% of players have no idea how many things they do wrong. Anyways, if I dont get anyone interested, not a big deal to me, just figured I would try to help the community.

Just so you guys know, Im a professional Musician by career, and I charge $30 an hour for music lessons. My private teacher charged $50 an hour, and that was his DISCOUNTED rate! Most music teachers charge at least $20 an hour, even if you goto a store/chain.. And what is the chances you will ever make money from learning to play afew simple songs on guitar or piano? Not great, Im not even making much outside of teaching.. so $10 for SC2 lessons is not unreasonable at all in the real world. Sure, its a hobby for most people that has no monetary rewards, but so is Swimming, Yoga, dancing, etc and people charge for those lessons too.

[Twilice]

I know, I just answered your question. I would not be interested in taking lesson for a charge from anybody :P Not for the sake of just "taking lessons". Maybe if other things where involved. But that would be to much work and the fee would need to go way high.

But I hope you can get something out of this.
gl hf