Retcons

[KillaKhan]

Yeah, exactly. If you're family was being chained down, forced to do something, and you had the power to stop it, even if that means killing yourself, it might become an option.

[RODTHEGOD]

The idea that the overmind and the protoss wouldn't eventually come into conflict seems a little silly though. Like look at how the zerg came to be... they became the zerg by war and conquest, by infestation and assimilation, it seems a little silly that that would not come into conflict with the protoss principals and that eventually they would be forced to take action.

[Tenebrae]

The idea that the overmind and the protoss wouldn't eventually come into conflict seems a little silly though. Like look at how the zerg came to be... they became the zerg by war and conquest, by infestation and assimilation, it seems a little silly that that would not come into conflict with the protoss principals and that eventually they would be forced to take action.

Keep in mind that, had it not been for the Fallen One, the Xel'Naga would have been there to guide their progression...quite possibly into a drastically different race, mentality wise.

The conflict may have been less violent, and more moral based upon the day that the Zerg were to merge with the Protoss... The Xel'Naga would have been there to explain, and show them that it was their means of becoming the new gods of the universe.

[Triceron]

The main point is there is a clearly defined Good/Evil here, with the Dark whatever being the Evil and the Overmind trying to get away from its corruption.

This is VASTLY different from the original story where the Overmind is simply an entity seeking evolutionary perfection and does so by assimilating other creatures and expanding beyond the galaxies in search of greater life forms. There is no good/evil factor in this.

[broodmywarcraft]

*Spoilers*

Read through the novels a bit, especially "Queen of Blades" above all others if you wish to get a better understanding about Kerrigan after her rebirth into the swarm. She's, practically, the same person she always was...just with a Zerg instinctual nature that fuels her overwhelming desire of vengeance...she feels hurt and betrayed, beyond words. The novels were all confirmed cannon as a way to delve further into the lore where the game could not...and throughout that novel you come to discover that Kerrigan, despite her hybridization, still loves Jim as much as she ever did. She even offers him a chance, though subtly, to join her...

Even when he refuses, even when he sides against her with Tassadar and Zeratul, she plays with him like a sadistic lover. As she hunts for the Protoss, she completely bypasses Jim despite knowing he was there, when Tassadar, Zeratul, and Jim ambushed her...she leapt upon Jim first to deactivate his suit...then kiss his visor and show off for him by basically taking on Tassadar and Zeratul on her own.

I honestly do not believe that she would ever kill Jim, nor do I believe that he would kill her...despite their mutual claims of ending one another's lives. Both of them seem like the type that would stand there and try to force the other one into killing them to ensure that they, themselves, were not the one to do it... Kerrigan wants Jim, still...but she knows he'll never agree to become her consort.

I actually think that the end of the game was a plan on her part, that the Xel'Naga artifact did something far different than we expect, imbued her with Xel'Naga energies that will actually empower her rather than having deinfested her. She still has the Zerg hair-like tendrils...and they don't seem to be even remotely effected. All that we know of the artifacts is based upon Valerian Mengsk...who undoubtedly had his team of scientists testing the artifact fragments on Zerg and Terran subjects to study the effects. The Protoss themselves, including Zeratul and the Preservers, have difficulty understanding the nature of Xel'Naga ways, language, and technology...so why in the world would we assume that Valerian and his Terran team could decipher the Xel'Naga artifact's purpose?

They most likely found that it destroyed Zerg cells and left Terran in tact...coming to the logical conclusion that it would either kill or deinfest Kerrigan. However, what if the artifact's purpose was to actually empower a hybrid...which Kerrigan, technical, is. What if the regression in her state is only temporary and caused by the fact that the energies needed to prepare her for the final metamorphosis that would ascend her into "god-hood" akin to the Fallen One and the Xel'Naga themselves. She could have done this all on her own by getting the artifact before Jim did...but now she had Jim not only bring it to her...but use it on her, which may have been what she planned all along.

Now she's with Jim, the man she still loves...and quite possibly still the Queen of Blades, waiting for her ascention to take root...and in the perfect place to take Jim if she so chose. However, like I said before, I doubt she would ever force Jim to join her...but to play the part of the "good ol Kerrigan" as she transforms back...and then offer him the option of coming along with her at the promise of leaving the Terrans alone after Mengsk is destroyed... Well, the loss of love tends to weigh heavily on the heart, as we have seen with Jim...but to gain back what you have lost and then have it threatened again...that destroys people. He was a broken man...Kerrigan has him right where she wants him, with a false sense of hope...

All it'll take is a little push...and she can finally have the consort she wanted from the start...all she has to do is appeal to one bit of humanity and make him a promise that after it's all over...she'll leave the Terrans to themselves...and I think he'll jump.

I have read the Queen of Blades and I consider it a 384 page contradiction of not only the original game, but itself. Which is why at the very least it annoys me that they are considered the official canon.

Yes Sarah still cares for Jim, but she has her own desires as well, I don't buy the argument that the Zerg infestation twisted her significantly enough to do those monstrous things. Being abandoned was the straw that broke the weak camel's back, and the infestation probably removed the inhibitions thus allowing her to take vengeance upon the world as you wrote. But still she herself is conscious of what she did as the game and Shadow Hunters the novel even.

Go back to the top of page 2 for my argument using the game.

As for Shadow Hunters, it is written:

Jim Raynor.

Unease fluttered inside her, quickly quelled. Once, before her transformation, she had cared for the easygoing marshal. Perhaps she had even loved him. She would never know now. It was enough that thoughts of him were still able to unsettle her. He, too, was dangerous, although in quite another way than Zeratul. He was dangerous for his ability to make her… regret.

Four years of waiting, gathering strength, resting. She had been sick of slaughter, but no more. Now that she—

Regret, sick of slaughter, what happened in True Colors, it's those things, even though I don't like the novels anyway, that convince me that it was really Sarah in the end that did those things consciously and despite her regret CHOSE to do them, not forced or encouraged to by the infestation.

But it doesn't really matter very much does it since the Kerrigan of even shadow hunters, the official lore, is not present in Starcraft 2.

It pisses me off because even what you said about their psychological love/hate relationship conflict sounds like a far more exciting story than what we got.

A Seven instead of a Transformers.

[Tenebrae]

The main point is there is a clearly defined Good/Evil here, with the Dark whatever being the Evil and the Overmind trying to get away from its corruption.

This is VASTLY different from the original story where the Overmind is simply an entity seeking evolutionary perfection and does so by assimilating other creatures and expanding beyond the galaxies in search of greater life forms. There is no good/evil factor in this.

On the contrary, we know the exact plans that the Fallen One has for the Zerg when he is finished with them...destruction, wiped out of existence. The Overmind seeks preservation of his race, of the Zerg...and that is very much akin to their original nature. Again, it never says the Overmind is good...Tassadar just praises it for being brave in the face of its own destruction...doing what was needed for its race to continue on.

[Tenebrae]

Regret, sick of slaughter, what happened in True Colors, it's those things, even though I don't like the novels anyway, that convince me that it was really Sarah in the end that did those things consciously and despite her regret CHOSE to do them, not forced or encouraged to by the infestation.

But it doesn't really matter very much does it since the Kerrigan of even shadow hunters, the official lore, is not present in Starcraft 2.

It pisses me off because even what you said about their psychological love/hate relationship conflict sounds like a far more exciting story than what we got.

A Seven instead of a Transformers.

Exactly, so yes...you and I agree completely but you just don't like the Queen of Blades novel XD

I wouldn't count her out yet...like I said, what they made it seem like may be far from the truth...this could all be going according to her plans.

[broodmywarcraft]

Exactly, so yes...you and I agree completely but you just don't like the Queen of Blades novel XD

I wouldn't count her out yet...like I said, what they made it seem like may be far from the truth...this could all be going according to her plans.

That's what I'm afraid of...

"Oh my god, I just paid another $60-100 to have my last $60-100 thrown at my face!!"

[Pandonetho]

Raynor wakes up in the Hyperon to realize everything ever since the evecuation of Mar Sar was a dream, and he was simply knocked unconscious the whole time by a crashing Zerg pod.

[broodmywarcraft]

Raynor wakes up in the Hyperon to realize everything ever since the evecuation of Mar Sar was a dream, and he was simply knocked unconscious the whole time by a crashing Zerg pod.

LoL, I'd pay $60-100 to see that xD