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    Default Re: What DON'T you like about Wings of Liberty?

    I'm largely enjoying it, since I'm a huge SC lore lover, so it's kind of hard for me not to like it. But I've definitely got a list of things that have been screwed up: such as taking things from books due to lack of creativity and not using them accurately/correctly anyway. i.e.

    Preservers - supposed to be so rare that Artanis himself could not for the life of him find any, and Zamara said she was supposed to be one of the last preservers (and she's pretty accurate....bearing the memory of all khalai protoss and all). A year later Zeratul knows where 3 of them are - and they're Khalai too - so it makes zero sense. Nothing in that mission depended on those Protoss being called "preservers" either. They could have just been called "mystics" or anything else.

    Palette Swaps & Voice Acting - Don't mind many of the palette swaps to tell you the truth, but Mohandar just irks me. In DT Saga Twilight this mofo was so frickin old that you could see every wrinkle in his body. Mohandar in the game though is just another smooth-faced Void Ray, and neither looks nor sounds old. But again, Blizzard has no creativity and needs to put in characters from books regardless of if they're relevant, and to hell with any previous descriptions of these characters. If you're not going to make him an accurate portrait/voice, then don't include him in the game! They could have just as well gotten another random Protoss, considering it was a vision of a hypothetical Armageddon.
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    Same with Tassadar - they felt that "random generic protoss voice" was better than actually trying to make it sound like Tassadar.....the actor SC:L got for first contact did a 10x better job, so it's kind of pathetic. Zero effort has been put into detail and I feel like Tassadar's voice casting was done by someone who didn't play the original game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gradius View Post
    I'm largely enjoying it, since I'm a huge SC lore lover, so it's kind of hard for me not to like it. But I've definitely got a list of things that have been screwed up: such as taking things from books due to lack of creativity and not using them accurately/correctly anyway. i.e.

    Preservers - supposed to be so rare that Artanis himself could not for the life of him find any, and Zamara said she was supposed to be one of the last preservers (and she's pretty accurate....bearing the memory of all khalai protoss and all). A year later Zeratul knows where 3 of them are - and they're Khalai too - so it makes zero sense. Nothing in that mission depended on those Protoss being called "preservers" either. They could have just been called "mystics" or anything else.

    Palette Swaps & Voice Acting - Don't mind many of the palette swaps to tell you the truth, but Mohandar just irks me. In DT Saga Twilight this mofo was so frickin old that you could see every wrinkle in his body. Mohandar in the game though is just another smooth-faced Void Ray, and neither looks nor sounds old. But again, Blizzard has no creativity and needs to put in characters from books regardless of if they're relevant, and to hell with any previous descriptions of these characters. If you're not going to make him an accurate portrait/voice, then don't include him in the game! They could have just as well gotten another random Protoss, considering it was a vision of a hypothetical Armageddon.
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    Same with Tassadar - they felt that "random generic protoss voice" was better than actually trying to make it sound like Tassadar.....the actor SC:L got for first contact did a 10x better job, so it's kind of pathetic. Zero effort has been put into detail and I feel like Tassadar's voice casting was done by someone who didn't play the original game.
    THIS.

    And, the fact that the campaign of 26-28 mission was TOO SHORT lol !

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    I think it's more like Mohandar was a conceptualized first and made his first appearance in the book than the other way around.
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    I don't like the new battle net, everything is needlessly complicated, especially when it comes to custom maps.

    I think the biggest screw-up is ordering maps by "popularity", so nobody will ever give a chance to unpopular maps, as good as they might be, because they just assume they are bad or that nobody plays them; therefore it's impossible to make them start at all, even now that there's very few custom maps avaible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilcane87 View Post
    I don't like the new battle net, everything is needlessly complicated, especially when it comes to custom maps.

    I think the biggest screw-up is ordering maps by "popularity", so nobody will ever give a chance to unpopular maps, as good as they might be, because they just assume they are bad or that nobody plays them; therefore it's impossible to make them start at all, even now that there's very few custom maps avaible.
    The solution I have in mind for this is to not depend on SC2's custom map thingy to get your map played by people.

    Advertise to everyone, and shamelessly provide whatever is needed to get the word out. Modesty is not an option in this case, imho.

    Though, it would be nice to have a tab of Blizzard recommended user-made maps. But still, this wont make any difference in the quality of the said custom maps.

    I say, people flock to the popular ones since there isn't much info on other maps. And people have so short a time to actually try them out without a preview or the likes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amph View Post
    I reserve my judgment after we get all the expansions, because for now is an incomplete game...
    That's bullshit. It is a complete game by itself, and should be judged as such. Just because something is labeled as a trilogy doesn't mean each piece is immune to its own praise or scrutiny. If we avoid critiquing the first part, the others can not improve. You're doing Blizzard a favor by pointing out what they can do better. Don't just sit on your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaharaDrac View Post
    So far, just the community.
    This as well. It's kinda sad to see that so many fans are unsatisfied with the product but I guess you can't make everyone happy.

    Other than that, the custom map regulations are really bad and are, to a certain extent, limiting the potential growth of the map making community. Hopefully Blizzard will fix that soon.

    Everything else that I can think of is really a lot more minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich_bird View Post
    This as well. It's kinda sad to see that so many fans are unsatisfied with the product but I guess you can't make everyone happy.
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    not for the price they offer
    cheaper yes, but not that much for the first part of the trilogy which as we know won't have the other parts for free if you have the first one

    I give the game 88/100
    mainly I am not the biggest fan of the story that was written, it was weird, good at times but mostly I had this odd feeling while playing
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    Nah, the $60 were well worth it with the beautiful embossed box, the nice introductory manual and EULA, as well as the free item you get (SC2 mousepad or Protoss/Terran/Zerg poster). Gameplay-wise, the mutiplayer (which is where the real value is) is completely mind-blowing, and the campaign does a fairly good job to introduce the Terran part of the story with interesting characters like Ariel, Tosh, Stettman, and esp. Valerian. I have learned to truly appreciate Valerian Mengsk through the books "I, Mengsk" and "The Dark Templar Trilogy". Tychus is another one - funny as hell at times

    Raynor, Kerrigan and Zeratul play out their roles respectively quite well in their own way. Without spoiling the end, the ending of WoL opens up so many more ideas as to what will happen next and it is as endearing in SC2 as it was heart-wrenching in SC1, is all I am going to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protoswarrior View Post

    Raynor, Kerrigan and Zeratul play out their roles respectively quite well in their own way. Without spoiling the end, the ending of WoL opens up so many more ideas as to what will happen next and it is as endearing in SC2 as it was heart-wrenching in SC1, is all I am going to say.
    alliences that is what will happen
    Kerrigan regains control of her broods, Raynor fights the dominion helping at the same time Kerrigan, Zeratul will try and fight the hybrids by saboting the voice and some other stuff

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