No-LAN for sc2

[Nicol Bolas]

Anyways, if it's to stop piracy, it's hopeless.

The idea is to make piracy hard, not impossible. Easy piracy means casual piracy; hard piracy means piracy only from the dedicated pirates who weren't going to buy your game anyway.

[SaharaDrac]

I think it's a bad idea to start a petition against something you only have partial information about.

[spychi]

No, it does not. Being on the same ISP would make your communication faster, not slower. B.Net does not provide servers for you to play on. It provides a matchmaking service. That's why it is free; if they provided play servers, it'd have to cost money like WoW.

The phenomenon you are referring to is the difference between "LAN latency" and "non-LAN latency." SC1 doesn't have a setting for this; it simply gives you LAN latency for LAN games, and non-LAN latency for non-LAN games. The launcher used for ICCUP games can make it so that you play with LAN latency over Battle.Net.

than answer one fucking question:
Why the fuck nor the ISP admin, nor you or anyone can help fixing this? it's impossible for me to play with my neighbour on battle.net still! and your "explanation" doesn't help
Thats why I use the freaking LAN FFS to play with my neighbour!!

[Mercatosis]

than answer one fucking question:
Why the fuck nor the ISP admin, nor you or anyone can help fixing this? it's impossible for me to play with my neighbour on battle.net still! and your "explanation" doesn't help
Thats why I use the freaking LAN FFS to play with my neighbour!!

It's hard to answer that when you don't tell us why you can't play with your friend. What happens when you try to play with your friend? Have you tried blizzard tech support?

I would find it funny if it turns out this is just some stupid issue that you and you friend overlooked, making this a more or less futile thread.

[spychi]

When we are joining a game 2vs2 or 1vs1, playing with random people, it starts and someone is or dropped or we have a slideshow because of the interfere of the outside IP (or some shit like that), no one can do shit about it.

[sandwich_bird]

than answer one fucking question:
Why the fuck nor the ISP admin, nor you or anyone can help fixing this? it's impossible for me to play with my neighbour on battle.net still! and your "explanation" doesn't help
Thats why I use the freaking LAN FFS to play with my neighbour!!

When you host, can ppl join your game?

[spychi]

When you host, can ppl join your game?

Yes they can, I have the ports fowarded.

[SaharaDrac]

Keep in mind just because it doesn't work in SC1 doesn't mean it won't in SC2. It's a whole new Bnet, new network coding, built from the ground up.

[Norfindel]

The idea is to make piracy hard, not impossible. Easy piracy means casual piracy; hard piracy means piracy only from the dedicated pirates who weren't going to buy your game anyway.

The bad news, is that anti-piracy measures are nearly always a hassle for the legitimate buyers. You now need an internet connection just to play the damn game. You organize a lanparty, but the internet connection is down? No game boys...
At the very least, send the usage statistics/whatever if there is an internet connection, but allow the game to be created if there isn't any.
I expect it to work very fast if all computers are in a LAN, even if you need battle.net to create the game. If using battle.net affects the game's speed, i think it's the worse idea, ever.
About ICCup, didn't Blizzard itself release the battle.net code, or i'm mistaken? Anyways, it's better there than in battle.net, where everybody plays money maps, and it's full of hackers, and the forums filled with trolls.

[Moradon]

The bad news, is that anti-piracy measures are nearly always a hassle for the legitimate buyers. You now need an internet connection just to play the damn game. You organize a lanparty, but the internet connection is down? No game boys...

That right there is the crux of the issue. Requiring an internet connection locks out a lot of people from playing multiplayer whenever they want. Remember that we're in the middle of an economic crisis. Internet may be more widespread than in 1998, but we still have a long way to go before we can just assume that everyone has readily accessible high-speed internet. And the bad economy just makes it even worse, especially since many people have no choice but to play through LAN, and there are plenty of LAN parties without internet.

I understand Blizzard wants people playing Battlenet, but removing LAN entirely isn't the answer. Only hardcore fanboys are going to go through the trouble to purchase high-speed internet just so they play multiplayer with other people in their own damn house! Everyone else is either just gonna pirate, or not play altogether.

Blizzard needs to realize that most people who don't play Bnet do so because Bnet isn't all that great. If they want more people to play Bnet, then all they have to do is make it as fun as possible. Taking away our alternatives in order to shove it down our throats will only piss people off.