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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldrius View Post
    Why does one need to choose exactly? Resources?
    I agree its strange, the right choice appears quite simple to me. In the very early game, the choice is between a 100 mineral Pylon which provides power and 8 supply, and a 150 mineral Obelisk which lets your Probes mine more and gives you shield regen. Honestly, the Obelisk seems like the obvious choice every time, because the resources you collect using the Obelisk will pay for its cost (and everything else) very fast, and who needs supply when you can use the Obelisk to regen the shields of the less units you have?

  2. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid View Post
    I agree its strange, the right choice appears quite simple to me. In the very early game, the choice is between a 100 mineral Pylon which provides power and 8 supply, and a 150 mineral Obelisk which lets your Probes mine more and gives you shield regen. Honestly, the Obelisk seems like the obvious choice every time, because the resources you collect using the Obelisk will pay for its cost (and everything else) very fast, and who needs supply when you can use the Obelisk to regen the shields of the less units you have?
    I was just wondering how there was competition between the two at all.

    It's like comparing a probe to a zealot almost. They serve completely different purposes.


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  3. #53

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    And wtf is the purpose of having both Time Bomb and Vortex?
    Um, they do different things? I'm not sure I understand the question.

    I think most of the starcraft fans that have been waiting 2 years deserve it.
    Wait, don't those "fans who've waited for 2 years" realize that "when it's ready" is pretty much the de-facto standard that Blizzard holds to? So if those "fans who've waited for 2 years" were actually paying attention during that time, they wouldn't expect a beta date.

    Why does one need to choose exactly? Resources?
    I'm guessing the question is like 9-Pool vs Overpool: which do you start to get first.

    Though it does beg a certain question: does this mean that Obelisks don't require being in range of a pylon to be built? That made more sense when they were a specialized type of Pylon.
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  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicol Bolas View Post
    Um, they do different things? I'm not sure I understand the question.
    Time bomb - AoE that disables all units inside it and (currently) makes them invulnerable
    Vortex - AoE that disables all units inside it and makes them invulnerable

    Try to keep up on the info man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicol Bolas View Post
    I'm guessing the question is like 9-Pool vs Overpool: which do you start to get first.

    Though it does beg a certain question: does this mean that Obelisks don't require being in range of a pylon to be built? That made more sense when they were a specialized type of Pylon.
    One can only hope they don't require psi to be built, else they might as well just bring back the old Shield Battery.

  5. #55

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    Time bomb - AoE that disables all units inside it and (currently) makes them invulnerable
    Vortex - AoE that disables all units inside it and makes them invulnerable

    Try to keep up on the info man.
    The info that is based off of guesswork from watching a video...?

    One can only hope they don't require psi to be built, else they might as well just bring back the old Shield Battery.
    With Proton Charge... how do you figure?


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  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldrius View Post
    The info that is based off of guesswork from watching a video...?
    Based on what we have been told about them for months. I have been opposed to the MS having both at once for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldrius View Post
    With Proton Charge... how do you figure?
    There's no need for the Obelisk, its a Shield Battery with an ability that's perfectly explainable as being from the Shield Battery. I figure that the lore for Proton Charge could just be the energy thats normally supplied to regen shields gets focused into the cutters of the Probes making them more effective.

  7. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid View Post
    Based on what we have been told about them for months. I have been opposed to the MS having both at once for a long time.
    ChaosSmurf's review didn't mention Time Bomb. Likewise, the video didn't feature it either. So, it's possible that it may have been removed. It's unclear for the moment. Perhaps Zero (or anyone else who was there) can clarify this?

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. peasant View Post
    ChaosSmurf's review didn't mention Time Bomb. Likewise, the video didn't feature it either. So, it's possible that it may have been removed. It's unclear for the moment. Perhaps Zero (or anyone else who was there) can clarify this?
    I swear I read it had both, but there's so much info to sift through I may be wrong.

    Either way, point is that the MS only needs one of them, not both.

  9. #59

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    Wasn't there supposed to be some other event happening at Blizzard today? The one that got postponed...

  10. #60

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    We know that Motherships have the following:

    1: The building teleport.

    2: The pseudo-stasis thing that stops units.

    3: The Phoenixes old Overload (which has no shutdown, and probably does much more damage).

    4: Passive cloaking.
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    "You simply cannot design a mechanic today to mimic the behaviour of a 10-year old mechanic that you removed because nearly nobody would like them today." - Norfindel, on the Macro Mechanics

    "We want to focus the player on making interesting choices and not just a bunch of different klicks." - Dustin Browder

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