Professional StarCraft 2 WoL after beta GPU review

[TheEconomist]

The clock is ticking ...

The reason is because it's easy to examine a screenshot and use the ladder method to see how much resolution and AA is there. I timed myself doing this and then divided it in half. It took me about 4-5 minutes so I gave you two minutes just to make sure you couldn't do. I also went through and looked at them and timed how long it would take. That was also two minutes.

Besides, if you can't immediately tell the difference then that just proves my point. Especially since these aren't even 1920x1200 16xAA since Crysis doesn't give me the option of 1920x1200 despite supporting it and using it in other games. Also, Crysis is a game which needs high resolution. All of the trees and such are very prone to aliasing. I gave you every advantage in the world and you still couldn't give any evidence I am wrong.

EDIT: Time's up. Make your choices.

EDIT: Six minutes and no selection. GG

Now, just so you know I'm not giving you false pictures, here's how you can tell there's AA and how much:

The guide is down. But, basically, you go to a line which is aliased and count the blurry pixels around it. The more there are the more anti-aliasing.

When NeoGAF is back up, I'll post the link.

[mikill]

Ok i got my answers. But i messed up and only clicked 4 so i'll give links when I refer to them. Replky if you understand

[TheEconomist]

Ten minutes, eh? You only responded after I told you the method and had plenty of time to zoom in and do things. It's like you're trying to prove my point. If you were right, you would've immediately known.

EDIT: Haha! 6 minutes and no response .... This is delicious!

[mikill]

Dude first I replied to your post then I had to go to the bathroom plus I am on break.

Ok This image: http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...7&d=1280076092 I believe to be at 2xAA but thats iffy I think it may have AA off.

This image: http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...8&d=1280076095 I believe to have AA on possivly at 4xAA but i don't know your settings.

This image: http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...9&d=1280076099 I believe to have AA off, no AA here.

This one has the best of the AA one, possibly 8xAA. This definately has it on. http://sclegacy.com/forums/attachmen...0&d=1280076102

[TheEconomist]

Nope. The correct answers are as follows:

1. No AA
2. No AA
3. 4xAA
4. 2xAA
5. 4xAA

If you can't tell the difference between 1600x1200 with 0/2/4AA with 25 minutes to zoom and do whatever, how are you going to be able to tell the difference at 1920x1200 with 16xAA and 60+ FPS going past you every second.

I win. GG
Thank you for playing.

Now, go count the AA so you know I'm not lying.

[mikill]

first thing I don't know which of 1 2 3 4 4 are which, second you give me two minutes to give you an answer and expect me to get all the right answers. And last I took time off my break for this, so I am going to one up you, I am going to show you the difference on one of my games to show you the difference that AA makes. And I'll show it on starcraft 2 when the game comes out as well.

[TheEconomist]

I gave them to you in order.

If you can't figure it out in 25 minutes (which is what I ended up giving you) then you can't tell in-game. You had 25 minutes to zoom in and count.

I'm done with this. Time for me to go do my home work, get ready for SC2, and forget about his huge waste of time.

[mikill]

Who the heck cares that had 25 minutes you think most people can tell in under that time? First time had nothing to do with the arguement, and second I told you to prove yourself of the AA setting.

EDIT: I have attached 4 pictures can you see the difference? First no AA, second 2xAA, third 4xAA, and final 8xAA. Can anyone see the difference because I can and I have more to back up my point.

[FoxSpirit]

I win. GG
Thank you for playing.

Now, go count the AA so you know I'm not lying.

Tychus, please post the NeoGAF link. There are TWO screenshots threads over there and because in one "TheOctagon" posted screens of ridiculous quality by using MSAA, SSAA and manual resolution downsampling to produce jawdropping pics. But they were on unplayable settings so the made an extra thread for pics which show "real gameable" screenshots.
Also, you took low-contrast night shots (where the low contrast hides aliasing) and post them as 1600x1200 256k jpegs which simply murder the picture. On the far island below the orange light you can even see the compression artifacts.

Plus the wooden stack on pic 5 shows more aliasing in pic 4, but the tyre shows just the oposite. That's how badly compressed they are.

@mikill: you picked a good example but the compression is also way too high, if the aliasing wasn't that hrash it would vanish. 98% quality jpegs at least, or better png. Use abload.de that what GAF uses for HQ uncompressed stuff.

[dustinbrowder]

Who the heck cares that had 25 minutes you think most people can tell in under that time? First time had nothing to do with the arguement, and second I told you to prove yourself of the AA setting.

EDIT: I have attached 4 pictures can you see the difference? First no AA, second 2xAA, third 4xAA, and final 8xAA. Can anyone see the difference because I can and I have more to back up my point.

Yes I can, but only in a picture.
In-game at high resolutions its really impossible to tell, especially the difference between 4x and 8x.

So yeah, AA is for lower resolutions and more than 4x is just waste of performance.

If you got a GTX480 with a crazy monitor and monster CPU also, you would probably want to turn everything on MAX.

Most will probably play it up to 1280x1024 and at medium settings.