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    Yeah isn't that the big bad prison planet?

    And im pretty sure a Worldship is actually a ship and not a planet. A really big ship of course, like bigger than a Mothership if not equal

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemolitionSquid View Post
    I've yet to see a public (non-con) trailer that includes actual gameplay. How interesting.
    Do you really want a gameplay video? there is tons apon tons of game play videos out there, just not made by blizzard at the beta stage (they made their battle reports at alpha).
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  3. #133

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy View Post
    If I do, then they're called high standards... man.
    I'd argue that they're unrealistic standards.

    Seriously though, I'm sure you understand that the whole point of a trailer is immersion.
    Hardly. That is the point of the game. A trailer is made to hype something.
    Now what happens if the different parts of a movie aren't coherent? Well that immersion is gone.
    It's NOT a movie, it's a TRAILER. This trailer was completely coherent. What, do you want them to give you the entire storyline in a trailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy View Post
    I think Xyviks points are rather clear (and I agree with many of them), but so what if he describes each part he thought was ugly? You'll say they weren't and he'll say they were. Your question was fruitless, as is your follow-up.
    Are you a mind reader? Do you somehow know exactly what I'll say in every conceivable situation?

    If he had pointed out specific parts of the trailer that he didn't like and made a logical argument as to why he didn't like them I would have at least respected his opinion. Instead all he said was "OHHH MAHHH GOODD THAT IS SOOOOOO UGLY!!!" and acted as if the non-pre-rendered parts were the uglies video game graphics he had ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctis View Post
    Yeah isn't that the big bad prison planet?

    And im pretty sure a Worldship is actually a ship and not a planet. A really big ship of course, like bigger than a Mothership if not equal
    Maybe I'm totally missing something, but look at the picture again? Do the Terran even have the capacity to cut a planet up like that?
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    Seriously though, I'm sure you understand that the whole point of a trailer is immersion. That's how it reels you in. Now what happens if the different parts of a movie aren't coherent? Well that immersion is gone.
    Not coherent?

    Definition of incoherent: without logical or meaningful connection; disjointed; rambling

    The trailer looked and sounded completely coherent to me. I totally understood each scene to the next, whether it was pre rendered or not.

    It seems like you're just picking on it because you expected a full pre rendered cinematic. To make that coherent, that would require them to make a completely new cinematic, otherwise potentially ruin plot, and at the least, leave less pre rendered for the actual game.

    You realize big budget movies take all their scenes from the movie itself right? This is silly, StarCraft II has what, 20 minutes of pre rendered? How do you expect them to make another 30 second clip that isn't just a rehash of the last ad they did, without having to spend a long ass time making a new one, or taking away from the game?

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    Makes me wonder who was the 1st escapee from New Folsom. Anyone know what the UNN report head lines about the prison world in Ghosts of the Past's round 0:25? "Something something at New Folsom."

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    New Folsom looks butchered to the point that it requires beams to stand up against its own gravity. I'm guessing the Kel Morian combine had something to do with stripping it apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy View Post
    If I do, then they're called high standards... man.
    Seriously though, I'm sure you understand that the whole point of a trailer is immersion. That's how it reels you in. Now what happens if the different parts of a movie aren't coherent? Well that immersion is gone.

    I won't comment more on the "you've got serious problems man"...

    Maybe I was unclear but I'm saying that when compared to a true budget movie trailer, this one looked cheap because it's a compilation of two completely different things put side by side. That they aimed for something their product (the trailer, not the game), wasn't meant to be.
    I personally find it very odd that so few people were bothered by this senseless mash-up, or maybe some are thinking "better than nothing".

    Maybe it's because I'm already pretty hyped about the game, but this didn't hype me any more.


    Before you start quoting my above words: this is an OPINION.
    I've said explicitly what parts of the video I didn't like, and I've provided elements one could compare such a video to (both in the cinema -just type trailer in youtube- and gaming industries -I picked D2-. I'm not really sure what more I can do.
    I'm not looking for über graphics, that's not what blizzard is famous for. I'm looking for great designs, animations and situations. This was 2 out of 3, which isn't bad, but fell short for me. But again, and again, it's the lack of coherence which was the largest issue, I didn't expect this was something Blizzard would pull out.

    It's ok for our opinions to differ, but I repeat that I felt this was sub-par, and I don't think my expectations are a major factor in this impression.



    No he isn't. He's saying that he thinks they were sub par, and you disagree and are jumping on the argumentation wagon, trying to prove him wrong when you can't and when the expectations are obviously different.
    I think Xyviks points are rather clear (and I agree with many of them), but so what if he describes each part he thought was ugly? You'll say they weren't and he'll say they were. Your question was fruitless, as is your follow-up.
    My opinion is that then there is something wrong with you. You have exceedingly unrealistic expectations for this game, and by your own logic, it doesn't make much sense.

    You compare the trailer to movie budget trailers, what are they anyway? They are mash ups of the footage from the movie. Starcraft 2 only has about 30 minutes of CGI with about 30 minutes of in game rendered CGI. There are already very little scenes you can pick from to make an explosive 3D trailer. Considering the fact that THIS IS AN REAL TIME STRATEGY GAME, the trailer being as 3D CGI as high quality as it is, is pretty amazing.

    They've already done a fully rendered teaser trailer which was enough for the announcement (remember that it was pretty damn short) and it didn't tell a story at all. This trailer was cohesive, it introduced the major players of the game in very short scenes and served to create a lot of excitement for the game. This is probably the best game trailer I've ever seen and probably the best executed.

    I don't know what your problem is but you've obviously got unrealistic expectations, you have no idea what a good trailer is and your standards are purely ego boosting (ie you have no real standards as this trailer does hit the specific areas perfectly)

    Please show me another game trailer that surpasses this one. Where in under 2 minutes, you find out ALL the major and minor characters and the overall plot line. In under 2 minutes, we get the story that Raynor once loved Kerrigan, and that someone in charge betrayed her and that Raynor blames himself for her loss. We also find out that Raynor is leader of some sort of rebellion against a higher authority, seeking some sort of ancient quest with the help of an alien ally. We even get to see Raynors new love interest. This trailer introduces massive amounts of people into the world of Starcraft in a relatively short time. Like a summary of the game before you play it.

    You want to make a better trailer than that? Do you even know how to make a trailer? To make the entire thing in CGI would've cost a year's worth of time, you think that's a good idea?

    Blizzard is all about gameplay over graphics, in this case, content over graphics whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions of Khas View Post
    New Folsom looks butchered to the point that it requires beams to stand up against its own gravity. I'm guessing the Kel Morian combine had something to do with stripping it apart.
    What am I missing here? What's the source that makes everyone think that planet is New Folsom?
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  10. #140

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    What am I missing here? What's the source that makes everyone think that planet is New Folsom?

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