New novel: Devils' Due

[pure.Wasted]

Well I, Mengsk or Heavens Devils both beat Speed of Darkness in terms of actual literature. <_<

Very possible. In case of I, Mengsk, even probable!

Saw Heaven's Devils at Chapters a few days ago. Didn't pick it up because I'm a little strapped for funds at the moment, but seeing as how Raynor & Tyke's adventures seem to be only beginning, I just might have to.

[warrior6]

Let's be realistic here.

It was way better written (even from the first book alone) than Speed of Darkness.

im going to dispute this too...what speed of darkness wanted to do, it did very well...put you in the shoes of a marine fighting in a war he knows so little about and in the end with all the evil that is was emanated through the zerg and the corrupt humans, they died doing something noble and worthy. it wasn't a great book in terms of adding to starcraft lore or exploring a very large part of it, but it was a book that you could read without ever playing or knowing what starcraft the game was...it was a story you can read and if you liked it enough go on to explore the rest of the universe.

the DT books were just a chore to read. everything from the dull human characters like ramsey and rosemary to the pompous ass protoss. the protoss were pretty way too over the top with the whole "to learn is to unlearn" way of talking...

Speed of Darkness on the other hand, I don't see how anyone can like that book. It was just pages & pages of a Marine losing his mind + boring battles. Nothing remotely noteworthy happened in that book. :$

DT saga in 3 whole books couldn't even come close to the combat depicted in speed of darkness. the combat and battles were all too detached from the characters and out of focus in DT saga.

in conclusion, i gave 3 chances for christie golden to win me over and I actually read and bought the books just because they were starcraft. none of the DT books even came close to how much i enjoyed heaven's devils, I, mengsk or speed of darkness

[protoswarrior]

I guess to each his/her own. I won't dispute your opinion, man.

I enjoyed the series as thoroughly as I enjoyed Heaven's Devils, whose emotional content was very strong too. Esp the ending was quite heart-wrenching. DT saga was a lot closer to my affinity for Protoss lore, and understanding of a race that is truly depicted as very 'alien' to human sensibility. Christie captured that aspect well on top of creating a sort of cliché love story between RM and Jake.

I'm surprised that you did not capture the fact that the character of Jake and RM are meant to be dull, given their background. But, Christie Golden explores how in all that dullness and un-excitable personality, she was able to "tear open" a rift into an alien mind's sensibility that is at the beginning conspicuously absent.

Anyways, as I said. To each his own, and we agree to disagree that the books were good/bad, based on our personal perspectives. GL with WoL.

[warrior6]

I guess to each his/her own. I won't dispute your opinion, man.

I enjoyed the series as thoroughly as I enjoyed Heaven's Devils, whose emotional content was very strong too. Esp the ending was quite heart-wrenching. DT saga was a lot closer to my affinity for Protoss lore, and understanding of a race that is truly depicted as very 'alien' to human sensibility. Christie captured that aspect well on top of creating a sort of cliché love story between RM and Jake.

I'm surprised that you did not capture the fact that the character of Jake and RM are meant to be dull, given their background. But, Christie Golden explores how in all that dullness and un-excitable personality, she was able to "tear open" a rift into an alien mind's sensibility that is at the beginning conspicuously absent.

Anyways, as I said. To each his own, and we agree to disagree that the books were good/bad, based on our personal perspectives. GL with WoL.

ya for sure..

lol

i've recently come to like the protoss a lot less over the years..before when they had one liners like "my life for aiur" and "ishazu"

they were real badasses...in a lot of the cinematics like the tassadar one and the one when zeratul and artanis put the crystal into the temple, they just seemed like the super intimidating silent type.

then after reading books about them, i learned that they pretty much behave and talk like mr. miyagi...as in "you must wait young grasshopper" lol i guess its because i pictured them more as the predators from the predator movies who from the perspective of the humans were these mysterious and enigmatic silent yet terrifying warriors.

they seem a lot cooler in the games than in the books.

[Gradius]

ya for sure..

lol

i've recently come to like the protoss a lot less over the years..before when they had one liners like "my life for aiur" and "ishazu"

they were real badasses...in a lot of the cinematics like the tassadar one and the one when zeratul and artanis put the crystal into the temple, they just seemed like the super intimidating silent type.

then after reading books about them, i learned that they pretty much behave and talk like mr. miyagi...as in "you must wait young grasshopper" lol i guess its because i pictured them more as the predators from the predator movies who from the perspective of the humans were these mysterious and enigmatic silent yet terrifying warriors.

they seem a lot cooler in the games than in the books.

Eh. If there's any race that's gotten more lame as the years went by it's the Terrans. Wait until you play WoL, I heard that the Terrans come off as utter rednecks. Before they were just lowly scum who always got horribly murdered in cinematics and said inane lines like "I love you sarge" and "got yer zerg right here", which at least made me laugh. Now they're becoming more and more like hicks, and the ones who aren't, like Valerian, are aristocratic pricks with lameass British voices. Seriously, I get the impression that Mengsk & Valerian do nothing but sip tea & eat crumpets all day. :4

[pure.Wasted]

Eh. If there's any race that's gotten more lame as the years went by it's the Terrans. Wait until you play WoL, I heard that the Terrans come off as utter rednecks. Before they were just lowly scum who always got horribly murdered in cinematics and said inane lines like "I love you sarge" and "got yer zerg right here", which at least made me laugh. Now they're becoming more and more like hicks, and the ones who aren't, like Valerian, are aristocratic pricks with lameass British voices. Seriously, I get the impression that Mengsk & Valerian do nothing but sip tea & eat crumpets all day. :4

You sure you wanna go down this road, Grad?

I'm giving you a chance to walk away here. Do us all a favor. Take a deep breath. Think of your loved ones.

[TheEconomist]

Sweet! I can't get enough of StarCraft book. Especially Christie Golden. The Dark Templar Saga is amazing.

[warrior6]

Eh. If there's any race that's gotten more lame as the years went by it's the Terrans. Wait until you play WoL, I heard that the Terrans come off as utter rednecks. Before they were just lowly scum who always got horribly murdered in cinematics and said inane lines like "I love you sarge" and "got yer zerg right here", which at least made me laugh. Now they're becoming more and more like hicks, and the ones who aren't, like Valerian, are aristocratic pricks with lameass British voices. Seriously, I get the impression that Mengsk & Valerian do nothing but sip tea & eat crumpets all day. :4

the terrans actually got cooler over the years.


"your in way over your head jim"

"sweeeeet mother mercy"

"STAND YOUR GROUND"

those lines right there are better than anything the protoss have ever said in christie golden's books

and valerian doesn't have a british accent. notice the way he says Offer instead of Owffa lol


the protoss say "for artanis" AKA the pre pubescent protoss who just doesn't belong AKA the most worthless hero in the most worthless unit in the game AKA who blizzard made a mistake replacing tassadar with....

the protoss died with tassadar and fenix

sadly the protoss just don't live up to badassery like this anymore

watch?v=QWOtx66a-tI

nor do they look as cool as this anymore



nor do they sound as intimidating as this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWOtx66a-tI

all races took somewhat of a hit in terms of baddassery....the terrans somewhat redeemed themselves with Tychus and the new ghosts.

the protoss core trait of warriors charging into battle knowing that they may never enjoy the khala again and be killed with their memories gone forever still charged into battle fearlessly...RET CONNED they were teleporting away the entire time...

[Visions of Khas]

RET CONNED they were teleporting away the entire time...

... See, I know it's just a game. But I have this thing where I get a little peeved whenever people call warriors or soldiers cowards.

A soldier who believes whole heartedly in their sacred cause and plunges head first into the jaws of hell is a being to be feared and admired. Just because there is a slight change he can make it out isn't cause for jeering - it's cause for you to keep an eye over your shoulder. There's only a *chance* that they survive. Moreover, notice that they let out a scream of fury as they are pulled from the heat of battle.

Finally, to die for the sake of honor or glory... is selfish and stupid. To live for a cause, displacing your own honor for the sake of your entire species, is a far better way to serve. To die on the battlefield when you've done all you can, and when you can do ever greater works else where... yeah, there's no dishonor in that.


... /rant

As opposed to Gradius, I think I'm gaining a little moe respect for Terrans these days. And please don't insult us southerners - we make fun of ourselves enough for everyone, thank you very much.

[Pandonetho]

I have nothing against southerners, of course. However, from the sounds of it, the campaign is featuring a lot of redneck styled dialogue (I hope this isn't true, because most units seem ok to me so far basing my judgments off all the Multi playable Terran units). Anyway, sure Terrans can be seen as rednecks with big guns, but their whole race isn't just a bunch of rednecks, and I certainly don't want them talking like rednecks. I want more of the Marine talk in SC1. The way Ghosts talk, Goliaths, Wraiths. They don't sound like rednecks at all, and they're by far the coolest and most memorable units.

That compared to the idiot on the tower that got owned by a Dragoon shot.