Archons (Dark, Twilight, and otherwise)

[Wankey]

There was so much potential with this. Really, we could have 3 different archons in the game to add new strategy. Sucks they didn't choose to explore it further.

Meh...maybe in an expansion.

Protoss expansion coming right up! I'm quite sure they removed a lot of units to add them back into the game with expansions.

IE, dumb the game down a bit, see how it turns out, then shape the removed units into the respective slots. Done

[Kimera757]

Regardless, it mostly annoys me because of the price flaw. There has never been a unit that can cost different prices in gas and minerals, yet an archon in SC2 can either cost 100 minerals and 300 gas (two HTs), 250 minerals and 250 gas (two DTs), or 175 minerals and 275 gas (mixture).

New game. New rules. While not involving minerals and vespene, creep tumors and brood lords have two different sources and costs, too.

I think they did this to the archon because three archon types is confusing.

[Twilice]

They could just have different stats.
High templars give +splash
Where dark templars give +damage/movespeed

[Lupino]

Really now, it couldn't be that confusing. They got away with having two different ones in BW. Three different Archons = Three different graphics to tell the difference. You'd have the original version, a combat powerhouse meant to wade through swarms of enemy units; the Dark version, weak combat utility but awesome spells (and no, they don't have to be the same ones, all you people freaking out about Mind Control); and the Twilight version, able to hold its own in combat in addition to one or two useful abilities. Mix and match however way you want to build your army.

[ZEAL0T]

Is strange to see two DT turning into an archon. Would be nice change his name in multiplayer.
But for singleplayer, the return of DA in WOL has already been confirmed.
Recently, someone came here confirming what units will return on the campaign. Including DA. Does anyone remember this thread?

[Kimera757]

Really now, it couldn't be that confusing. They got away with having two different ones in BW. Three different Archons = Three different graphics to tell the difference. You'd have the original version, a combat powerhouse meant to wade through swarms of enemy units; the Dark version, weak combat utility but awesome spells (and no, they don't have to be the same ones, all you people freaking out about Mind Control); and the Twilight version, able to hold its own in combat in addition to one or two useful abilities. Mix and match however way you want to build your army.

Remember the kerfuffle over the dark templar?

But seriously, the protoss don't have room for two additional units. Blizzard would also have to find "game space" for them; there's enough complaints that archons are worthless as it is.

Blizzard might have no balanceable ideas for dark archons. Just look at how hard they've been nerfing Neural Parasite. I don't think Blizzard knows how to balance dark archons in StarCraft II. And they don't need to, if they're restricted to single-player.

Unlike in StarCraft I, lore (campaign) can be separated from multiplayer. I'm looking forward to over-the-top overpowered units in the campaign. Dark archons, motherships with non-crap abilities, thors with ridiculously high stats, the works...

[Noctis]

petition time, WE CAN DO IT!

maybe it's in single player... T.T

[Twilice]

I mean they could just alternate the colours a bit depending on which units has mergen, doesn't have to be a stats change.

Light Blue
Blue
Dark Blue

Easy?

[Noctis]

they have to have DA in single player at the least otherwise Ulrezaj can't exist.

I swear to god dustin browder if i worked at blizzard i would slap you just for this

[Krikkitone]

I think they are saving "archons with abilities" for the expansions.

ie in LotV or HotS the "Archon" unit will be replaced by the "Twilight Archon" unit... similar stats but the "Twilight Archon" has researchable abilities.