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Thread: SC2 Ladder uses APM to place you?

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    Default SC2 Ladder uses APM to place you?

    Its just so odd that after 5 placement matches everyone ends up in different leagues. I just seem to notice that my low APM friends always end up in bronze leagues even with records like 4-1 or silver with 5-0 and high APM friends end up in platinum and gold with the same records.

    It doesn't seem like the quality of opponents in placement matches really differs especially 1 day after beta when everyone has almost no games.

    Does anyone know how they actually place you? It's definitely not based off of win/loss, as I think it should be.

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    I've always thought that APM is overrated outside pro-leagues. Of course it matters when you have to have lightning reflexes to stay on top, but for an average player it's more important to have timing, tactical gems and grandstand strategic play. If you have that, who cares if your APM is 90 or 110?

    But OT, no, I don't know :P
    Last edited by Sarov; 07-09-2010 at 03:43 AM. Reason: Double post.

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    Default Re: SC2 Ladder uses APM to place you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantum View Post
    Does anyone know how they actually place you? It's definitely not based off of win/loss, as I think it should be.
    I believe it is based off your win/loss compared with the win/loss of your opponants and their places in the leagues.

    Since we are in the first few days of a ladder, the statistic based system is bond to be skewed.

    APM has nothing directly linked with skill.

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    I doubt APM is linked to it, though the exact mechanics are a mystery to me. In the final phase 1 reset I won my first 5 placement matches and got ranked Diamond league. A friend also won all five and got ranked gold :S.

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    And I got ranked Silver for winning all 5, and I was #1 Silver for like a week! It didn't bump me up even though I was beating plat guys and a few low-mid diamonds >.> Before that I was #1 Gold and still did not get bumped up...

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    Default Re: SC2 Ladder uses APM to place you?

    I wouldn't know because I don't have an account, but from what I've heard its based on your opponents level and what you choose your level to be.
    And no, I'm not dustin browder himself obviously, but maybe carrying his name will make me look more knowledgeable

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinbrowder View Post
    I wouldn't know because I don't have an account, but from what I've heard its based on your opponents level and what you choose your level to be.
    And no, I'm not dustin browder himself obviously, but maybe carrying his name will make me look more knowledgeable
    Rofl.

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    Its possible.. I personally think it has to do with Average Income spent or whatever that stat is. The one that says how much minerals you have on average.. If you are over 300-400, you are doing bad (unless its like a 1 hour game).. so it puts anyone under 300 into the higher leagues.. I think that is the very basics of being good at RTS games, always keeping your income low at all times, if your minerals often goes past 400, you are not playing good.


    The thing that is odd to me, is how they are promoting people from Platinum to diamond.. I have a friend whos like 30-20 and got into diamond like when he was 15-10.. yet I had to get ~40 games before I was moved up, and a much better record too.. IdrA also was in my division, with a 19-0 record, still in platinum.. yet lots of people who were like 19-10 were in diamond already..

    I personally went 4-1 with one disc, and was placed straight into Platinum.. ~30 games later, with a rec of 25-15.. im in Diamond now (last night I was #4 in my league)

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    Default Re: SC2 Ladder uses APM to place you?

    Quote Originally Posted by dustinbrowder View Post
    I wouldn't know because I don't have an account, but from what I've heard its based on your opponents level and what you choose your level to be.
    And no, I'm not dustin browder himself obviously, but maybe carrying his name will make me look more knowledgeable
    That guy strikes me as a fun, careless, obsessive-compulsive dude, who loves too much sugar on anything. So, yeah...

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    Default Re: SC2 Ladder uses APM to place you?

    I think average unspent ressources (which is also displayed at the end of matches in a graph) has an influence on where you get placed

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