Lan 100% Confirmed For Televised Korean Tournaments

[n00bonicPlague]

Actually, Americans help out their fellow man quite frequently.

See, we got these things called taxes . . .

[Kimera757]

See, we got these things called taxes . . .

Which few people pay willingly. Hell, tax-cutting is so popular (in Canada too) that politicians get in trouble, not for raising taxes, but for opposing tax decreases! Even stupid ones!

Seriously thinking such posts should be moved to another forum, though. Then again, the actual arguments about LAN have turned seriously toxic very fast.

[SinsWage]

I thought for a second I was reading "The Fountainhead".

[deadlock]

Survival of the fit. You are a biological machine put here to struggle and evolve so that you can either thrive or die. We, as members of this system, are sympathetic to our own plight so we seek to deny this simple truth by interfering with the system. It is no longer thrive or die; it is thrive or live in subsistence. In America, there's no excuse for being poor or lower-class. Your wealth is limited only by your ambition and intelligence. The poor are poor for a reason. I have no sympathy for them.

the poor are poor because they're descendants of the oppressed classes.

Plus, the capitalist system motivates the superior, innovative, and progressive beings to progress.

that's bullshit. capitalism protects itself and advances mediocre members of the social elite into positions of power (i.e BP executives)

Communism, socialism, and all of that other nonsense is counter to the basics of our existence and a direct blasphemy to the natural laws of the universe.

even if "survival of the fittest" was a law of the universe (it isn't), it doesn't justify asserting that brutal competition is the best way to do things. and capitalism isn't "survival of the fittest", it's "survival of those born into the right social groups (white and wealthy)."

America, Japan, and other capitalist nations are the most wealthy, most influential, and most progressive of the nations for a reason.

america still has the death penalty, that's not very progressive

It is the best system that isn't a complete desecration to the way of temporal existence.

that sentence doesn't mean anything


seriously mate, we have access to computers and the internet, we're more fortunate than half of the world's population. maybe we shouldn't be telling them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, eh?

[Maul]

They might start making cheap toasters instead of video games.

That is a possibility but with their primary business revolving around the gaming industry since they were founded it is highly unlikely. If you are trying to make a point then I think you could of used a more relevant example here.

1) #1 is a joke. I won't respond to it.

The rest is completely false and comes not from any tangible evidence but from desperation at the fact you know you're losing ground here.

Ad hominem.

If I could give you an infraction for stupidity, SlickR, I would. Seriously.

Ad hominem and a statement that I, for one, believe is a low blow.

I don't even know why people like Tychus or Dauntless are trying to convince anybody. Anyway, continue.

Ad hominem. It appears that you're implying that Tychus and Dauntless's views are valid while everyone else's are not. If this is not the case, then that statement needs to be elaborated.

And its clear you didn't understand him, if all you can pass off as an answer is "too bad for you."

Ad hominem.

I don't think it will, I know it will
some people will get angry if they will realize that SC2 won't have features SC1 had and they will pirate the game for that reason

Unless certain facts are common knowledge, making such statements hold little weight to them unless people will believe everything you say without questioning it, which I don't believe to be the case present.

because nowadays everything can get pirated and no matter how much stricted security Battle.net 0.2 will have, it will get cracked in a month
because there are people which will pirate it for few reasons: lack of features in it - not worth money, for being just dumb ass pirates or they just can't afford it

Again this is just your opinion only as nothing supports your statement. Also pirating a game just because you think it's too expensive for what it is is not a valid reason to conduct an illegal activity. As I've said in other threads, if you don't feel that you're getting the right value for the game at release, wait until it comes down in price and has more patched features later.

As for the "No American has any reason to be poor" comment earlier...this is clearly an uninformed statement from someone who has little to zero knowledge of how life works, so will not be validated with a response from me.

Ad hominem.

in poland it is common amongst 75% of Xbox users
take off the butterfly helmet and see through your own eyes

I'm taking this as your opinion once more, with no evidence backing your statement.

for fucks sake are you that blind?

slicker is right, in this part of europe the 75% I brought up is just the begining, I can assure you that 9 on 10 private PC or Xbox users have illegal software

First paragraph, ad hominem. Second, more opinion with no evidence.

this proves what I said previously
despite PS3 firmware and technology everything so far developed by programers got cracked
there is no fucking way StarCraft 2 will be an exception as we all saw how fast SC2 beta was cracked

Because something has happened in the past does not automatically mean it will happen again. It may be likely, but not guaranteed.

Actually since I'm probably most familiar with it all, PS1 got cracked by scrambling the original chip and you can play pirated copies, PS2 also and PS3 also.
This proves that anything and everything can get cracked!

Because something has happened in the past does not automatically mean it will happen again. It may be likely, but not guaranteed. Also, hardware cracks and software cracks are done differently, mainly due to one being a physical medium and the other being information.

one thing is for sure, if Blizzard will stick to the developing direction they took right now they will loose more and more fans and I am an example of that
I don't trust them anymore, I think it's a greedy company since WoW and the merge with Activision, I hope they will bail-out if they will keep doing this bullshit they were doing for the past months and I won't even feel sad about it

WoW charges $15 a month and is constantly being patched with additional content all the time. 11.5+ million people play it and the numbers keep growing. I can only assume that it's popularity is due to the fact that most subscribers enjoy the experience and agree that the fee is worth the entertainment they're provided with, thus Blizzard aren't being greedy. There's simply a demand for the experience and they're providing one.

There has also been no evidence supporting the argument that Activision are or have been interfering with Blizzard's development process on any of their games. If there is evidence and not speculation supporting it I'd like to see some.

I don't understand why a new game doesn't have features games had in the 99s
so far Blizzard game bullshit reason noone with half of a brain cell would consider reasonable enough

I feel the same way about what you said in your first sentence, even though it's not formatted as one. However, if the reason they've provided us with is that it is to combat piracy then to me it makes sense. However, as your second sentence states, due to this reasoning I mustn't even have half a brain cell. But as, once again, you've only stated your opinion and offered no evidence I'm not bothered at all by said opinion.

Ad hominem.

than I don't want to see Battle.net 2.0, I just want to buy the game for the singleplayer, without the lies about how the network is awesome and stuff cause it's FUCKING NOT in case no one noticed that!

You can still buy the game and not play online, however you probably won't get a discounted version. You could, however, ask Blizzard to release a single-player only version of their product. It may be unlikely, but it's their choice if they do so or not.

honestly go &$% yourself and you can report me or even ban me, if you are supposed to be a community support staff member of SC:L with this kind of claims than internet society goes to hell with peoeple like you, the world itslef as well

Ad hominem is only the beginning.

I thought that we all should be united when dealing with stuff like that because it's for the good of us all as we are all gamers, I was wrong, fanboys and retarded people will remain

People have various opinions on almost all topics, no matter how obvious something may seem to you.

lets all calm down a bit.
This is what Blizzard is doing and all should be against, the destroying of communities, instead of solidifying and strengthening it, they want it torn apart and weak so that there is no one to apply pressure to them, so they can suck less "realizing" peoples money however they want!

Blizzard aren't destroying communities, communities are destroying themselves. Blizzard can make announcements but it depends on you how you react. As you can probably see there is a lot of emotions being thrown around in this thread and not a lot of actual discussion.

Calm down, do you NOW see what blizzard is doing to you?
You are prepared to insult at least 1/3 of SCL forum members with your post about how rich people are blessed beings and more, than some1 less fortunate.
How you insulted less rich, let me not say poor people with your talk how they should rot as they are!

Can't you see?

EDIT: I have no reputation at all, so I can't loose any!

Again no-one is control of their own emotions except for themselves. I don't believe Tychus has intentionally set out to insult or upset anyone with his statements, I think he's just making points from an emotionless point of view, which in my opinion is the best way to analyse any problem.

@silencbank: Don't you know where you are? Cease with this making of sense before this topic implodes.

Your English is lacking. You not understand.

It is people's ignorance and hypocrisy (not at all relating to anything having to do with Blizzard or Activision) that has me "upset". None of my walls of text had ANYTHING to directly do with Blizzard. Why would you think otherwise?

More ad hominem.

but we all should know what we want within the content of the game or we are getting scammed

No that is not the definition of being scammed. To be scammed means to expect one thing but receive another, usually described in a deceitful manner. Blizzard are not hiding any missing features from us, they are well known in the community at this stage.

Ah. So if everyone doesn't agree with you, fuck them despite what opinions or evidence to the contrary they provide you. Gotcha.

Ad hominem.

wow... lol

I didn't know that confirmation of LAN would bring about such a discussion :P


<--- goes back to SC2 Mimic AI map

Perfect finishing quote; the majority of this thread hasn't been a discussion, just senseless back and forths as I hope I've pointed out above.

[TheRabidDeer]

Hey guess what! BNET2 SUCKS!!!

Hidden Content:

WTF PEOPLE??? You make it sound like we only found out yesterday that it sucks! We know it sucks!! WE KNOW WE KNOW WE KNOW WE KNOW WE KNOW!!! That's why we're trying to get Blizzard to listen! But you people are making that insanely difficult!! You wanna go down kicking and screaming?? FINE!!! I've got just the place for you!!

I pray to god that the people that are making posts about Blizzards nefarious plans do not make threads or posts on the b.net forums. Why? They are detrimental to any argument that legitimate non-infuriated and logical people have. The comments that Idra, tasteless, day9, husky and even SC:L made regarding bnet 2.0 are GOOD in that they arent mindless "BLIZZARD IS AN EVIL BLOOD SUCKING CORPORATION TRYING TO STEAL MY MONEYZ!" comments. They explain the situation, explain why its bad, and just generally give light to the whole problem (WITH EVIDENCE AND FACTS, NOT EXTRAPOLATED OPINIONS WITH NO BASIS). Going about it this way is the right way to do it and is more likely to elicit a positive response from Blizzard.

[spychi]

I'm taking this as your opinion once more, with no evidence backing your statement.

i gave the example proven by facts, you ignored the link, why are you even replying to my posts
it's not my fucking opinion that almost all of PC or Xbox users have illegal software installed
where do you live? in the butterfly world? people pirate music, games, videos, Windows, Xbox firmwares, programs for PC's on daily basis

http://www.p2pon.com/2008/11/28/pola...ternet-piracy/
another proven fact

I have a computer/business degree. I don't need you or spychi helping me make decisions or decide what to think. Consider that you know nothing about business law, capitalism, and don't even know things like monetization or the fact that LAN is not being sold for a profit. Given this, on what grounds could you possibly claim superiority over me and others in your decision making?

I am not trying to push my opinion in to your head, I am just trying to show how much unreasonable hope you guys have in yourself, beliving in every statement they would give
if you would put aside singleplayer would you still buy the game?

[Dragoonx]

i gave the example proven by facts, you ignored the link, why are you even replying to my posts
it's not my fucking opinion that almost all of PC or Xbox users have illegal software installed
where do you live? in the butterfly world? people pirate music, games, videos, Windows, Xbox firmwares, programs for PC's on daily basis

http://www.p2pon.com/2008/11/28/pola...ternet-piracy/
another proven fact


I am not trying to push my opinion in to your head, I am just trying to show how much unreasonable hope you guys have in yourself, beliving in every statement they would give
if you would put aside singleplayer would you still buy the game?

Going on what they have said is a much better action than going on mindless rampages about Blizzard charging for online play and monetizing features that have yet to even begin to be revealed.

Also whats the point of asking your last question if your going to create ridiculously absurd situations? Troll bait. Of course less people would buy it.

[Maul]

where do you live? in the butterfly world?

More ad hominem.

[spychi]

More ad hominem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

operate with words you know the meaning next time