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    Quote Originally Posted by TychusFindlay View Post
    I do not know to what extent you imply of this but if it's as much as I can infer then you surely will never be a complete or happy individual. Joy is brought through participating in the system that you are biological designed to perform best under and find fulfillment in. The system of nature and, to a certain degree, capitalism are the most complete in effecting the conversions of serotonin, dopamine, endorphins, epinephrine and norepiphren.

    You are nothing more than a higher thinking animal and, in the end, you have no choice but to participate in this system. Or you'll doom yourself to a meager subsistence. Or, in other words, no longer struggle and progress thus destroying the balance of chemicals in your brain set up to give you the drive to succeed in this system.

    As for understanding, I have it in spades. I understood completely what he was saying. Just because you're arguing over my points on any entirely different level doesn't mean I was off base. You're just looking at simplistic base of it.
    Capitalism does not favor the system. The system implies a group of parts working together as a whole. Capitalism is the exact opposite, a group of parts working for the one.

    Our higher thinking is what separates us from the animals. Its what elevates us above the need for survival of the fittest, to the ability for survival of all. You are but an animal, good sir.

    And its clear you didn't understand him, if all you can pass off as an answer is "too bad for you." Your opinion is that if one cannot afford luxury one does not deserve it. That those with less have so for a reason and should suffer while you enjoy opulence. You are elitist and I am disgusted.

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    Capitalism DOES favor the system. Communism and socialism favor the individual. Communism tells you to work less, achieve less, progress less so that you will not be superior to your neighbor and so that they will not have to be embarassed at their own weakness. The system is made strong through the individual. The "weakest link" saying comes to mind.

    Capitalism tells you that you thriving, succeeding and progressing are the most important aspects. Through you thriving, the system is improved. You are looking at things backwards. Just because capitalism or nature tells the individual that he is the most important does not mean that's against the system. On contrary, that's the best thing for the system. What's bad for the system is the weak and the strong persevering together. The weak dilute the strong and that's what communism and socialism does.

    Think of it this way. If nature told the animals to work in perfect harmony together and never to rise above their brothers and sisters then what progress would there be? The individuals would be weaker thus the genetic code would be weaker. Progress is brought through genetic adaptations. This would never occur if the animal were not told to try their best to succeed over their competition. Communism does not favor the system. It favors the human idea of easing their own suffering because that's what logical being are designed to do. You are designed to struggle and thrive so that you can become the alpha and achieve less suffering. However, we are so far removed from this that we no longer have to struggle and thrive to achieve this comfort. We live in such utter comfort that the only way we can get back to the basic is by inventing our own struggles fabricated only in our minds. Hence, you have the emotional problems and imbalances of today.

    Yes, you are right. I am an animal. And, so are you. You are sympathetic to your own plight and so you seek to ease your suffering by withdrawing from the system instead of combating it head on. That is a logical human move. However, you must understand that your very being with work against you in this circumstance. You can never be more than you are biologically. It does not matter how smart or how evolved you become. You are an animal but here to struggle and evolve. Thrive or die. Simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TychusFindlay View Post
    Capitalism DOES favor the system. Communism and socialism favor the individual. Communism tells you to work less, achieve less, progress less so that you will not be superior to your neighbor and so that they will not have to be embarassed at their own weakness.

    Capitalism tells you that you thriving, succeeding and progressing are the most important aspects. Through you thriving, the system is improved. You are looking at things backwards. Just because capitalism or nature tells the individual that he is the most important does not mean that's against the system. On contrary, that's the best thing for the system. What's bad for the system is the weak and the strong persevering together. The weak dilute the strong and that's what communism and socialism does.

    Yes, you are right. I am an animal. And, so are you. You are sympathetic to your own plight and so you seek to ease your suffering by withdrawing from the system instead of combating it head on. That is a logical human move. However, you must understand that your very being with work against you in this circumstance. You can never be more than you are biologically. It does not matter how smart or how evolved you become. You are an animal but here to struggle and evolve. Thrive or die. Simple.
    I'd rather not have this discussion here and derail the thread lest I get banned again. I think your opinion is backwards and typically American, and you think mine is backwards and typically Canadian. So lets just leave economic policies out of the thread.

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    Quite the opposite. America is far too caring of the poor. One tenth of the students at my college have admitted to just letting their medical and intuition bills pile up because "Obama will take care of it". America has set up a system that allows the weak to live in subsistence. They are content with this because the logic of the creature is to be comfortable. Only through a threat to the survivability of the creature in comfort would jolt it back into the system. That goes against everything America is about.

    This was a conversation about the natural laws of nature versus the laws created by man. I am not saying capitalism or America are perfect in this regard. I'm only saying it's the best. It's the best at catering to the system because it strengthens the individual. That's why damn near all of the 400 people that you can trace all of today's inventions and innovations back to were either capitalist, American, or in some other European society that had an earlier form of this system. Look at Greece and Athens. Look at their competition between each other. Greece was one of the greatest nations the world will ever see and they were BY FAR the most competitive. Look at how far ahead of their time they were. You didn't see them whining and moaning about how hard life was or how unfair the system of nature was. No, they met it head on and thrived. When they started to get lazy, what happened?

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/35094038/Roub...ce_Is_Bankrupt

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    Everything I hear from all your politicians and news stations is absolute tripe. Your people letting bills pile up because "Obama will take care of it" is due to misinformation and lies running rampant. Not because capitalism is the best way.

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    Actually, it's due to blacks thinking whites owe them something and that Obama will give it to them

    Capitalism in it's purest form is quite contrary to capitalism and America of today. If everyone accepted their role as biological beings they would not "let obama take care of it". This problems stems from the laziness of the comfortable animal which is what capitalism works to correct and is what socialism and communism work to ensure.

    When communism and socialism are as effective as capitalism, I'll give two shits about it's philosophies. Until then, capitalism reigns supreme because it restores the struggle to the comfortable creature and births progress and innovation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TychusFindlay View Post

    @mikill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWYd-pkukXQ

    Yes, I know you have internet. I don't think there's a dorm or university in America that doesn't have internet. I'm saying that I have no sympathy for the problem. I don't care about your dorm or the people. That's irrelevant. You cannot complain about luxuries; only basic needs. The problem is that you live in a dorm and are too impatient to wait for a LAN crack. That is not worth Blizzard opening themselves up for a lifetime of ass rape (again) through royalty and legal version work arounds. Besides, you could always just, you know, NOT wear down your neighbor's connection with StarCraft 2.


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    First I am not dumb if that is what your implying. I am just stating my opinion which should be allowed as this is free speech. About my dorm I am not an American nor do I go to an American institution. So how do know my situation? Basic needs has nothing to do with this thread as LAN has been confirmed for the Professional Edition and will included for the people at tournaments. I am impatient? I am not the one who named his username after a character in the game nor do I have a pre-order for it. A LAN crack so you are supporting the use of these? I would never steal anything in my life. A game is no exception and I will not get a LAN crack because it is not supported. I understand what you are saying: I hate piracy, I hate how countries like China can get away with it, but I also believe that: average joes should recieve LAN or should be able to download LAN from their b.net account if they have a legal copy of the game it would be like downloading a attactment to the game that would only work for your game as you are required a b.net account and internet connection to play the game. It wouldn't be hard to put into a reality and it would be secure as you would have to get a one time authorization everytime to use it and a legit account.

    As for "2 days and 100 posts", that's false. This debate is the same debate we've have for months to years. If you're talking about LAN, it's close to a year. It's your talking about Activision Blizzard, that's two or more years. I can go on and on.
    I have been in topics before this and have expressed that i would LAN for the reason stated above.


    Lastly, I am not a commie, I hate socialism.

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    I'll be brief:

    1) Never said you were dumb.
    2) My name is the way it is because, as far as I know, I cannot change it. I never intended to be a regular at BlizzForums. All of my other StarCraft 2 forums have unique names.
    3) You not getting LAN without a crack is not as important as Blizzard getting the money that is owed to them.
    4) It is your choice not to accept a LAN crack.
    5) Then why are you saying there are new debates? This is just a continuation of past debates with the context of the others still clearly in our head.
    6) I was talking to DSquid. Sorry for the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TychusFindlay View Post
    I'll be brief:

    1) Never said you were dumb.
    2) My name is the way it is because, as far as I know, I cannot change it. I never intended to be a regular at BlizzForums. All of my other StarCraft 2 forums have unique names.
    3) You not getting LAN without a crack is not as important as Blizzard getting the money that is owed to them.
    4) It is your choice not to accept a LAN crack.
    5) Then why are you saying there are new debates? This is just a continuation of past debates with the context of the others still clearly in our head.
    6) I was talking to DSquid. Sorry for the confusion.
    First lets stop this Captialism V.S. Communism crap and get back on topic. I hope we can all act like Gentlemen. You may not have said that but it came out that way. Your name wasn't the issue the issue was LAN and I am sorry for bringing that up but it just seems that your interested in the game. Yes it my choice not to accept a crack but it is also my choice to offer ideas to Blizzard and the community. I never said there were new debates, I was stating my ideas and belief in LAN. No harm as I said not a commie.

    As for the LAN, I believe that Blizzard should allow a LAN system into there game but I way of downloading the LAN client. By requiring you to download it though them, it would prevent piracy by: requiring everyone that has the game to have an account on b.net with a legal copy of the game, then allowing the LAN to work only for the LAN that the copy of the game is registered to and then once you have that all into your computer require them to have to be connected to the internet at all times of playing LAN thus blizzard servers can track and shut down any chance of piracy that way. And best of all for people that don't need/want LAN they don't download it.
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    Capitalism is core to the problems here since most of the problems people have with these decisions stem from capitalism. But, yes, I agree that it'd be best not to continue ... as I've said numerous times

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