SC:L Article - Battle.net 2.0 Concerns

[Gifted]

if they will add everything that was mentioned in the article than I can wait two months more
if only chat box, than they should change their tech programmers

So you are telling me, that you would rather the game be delayed EVEN THOUGH the time which the features would be available would come at the same time?

[ArcherofAiur]

Gifted your false choice hypothetical situation is not evidence you can use to further your arguement.

[Gifted]

Gifted your false choice hypothetical situation is not evidence you can use to further your arguement.

1. You are avoiding the question. 2. I edited my old response to reply to your edited response. Short jist, while the features I was talking about being delayed is chat channels and other high resource based projects, I _COMPLETELY_ agree with you on the importance of fixing privacy and identity issues and the urgency of that.

[ArcherofAiur]

1. You are avoiding the question.

NO im not. Your hypothetical situation is a false choice. What your choices should be if you wanted any semblance of what Blizzard has told us is


1) "Groups" content patch at some point in the future possible even included in first expansion.

OR

2) delay game and ASAP correct as many problems as possible with BNET 2.0 including general chat channels, friending without email, and being able to play someone in another country without paying 60 dollars first.

[Gifted]

NO im not. Your hypothetical situation is a false choice. What your choices should be if you wanted any semblance of what Blizzard has told us is


1) "Groups" content patch at some point in the future possible even included in first expansion.

OR

2) delay game and ASAP correct as many problems as possible with BNET 2.0 including general chat channels, friending without email, and being able to play someone in another country without paying 60 dollars first.

The reason that it's a false choice is the same reason that your suggestion is a false suggestion.

You move forward on the assumption that delaying a game will speed up the progress which it adds features. I'm moving forward with an assumption on the opposite side of the field, that the resources at Blizzard are maximized and whether the game comes out in July, August, October or December, the resources will be utilized the same, the only difference is when the user base has the game in their hands.

The reason I'm giving this choice, is to see what your personal thoughts are. It's not to say "See! I'm right and you are wrong!" I'm just trying to see if the choice were correct, what would you perceive. I'm trying to understand your thoughts more and get this to be a discussion, not an argument.

[spychi]

So you are telling me, that you would rather the game be delayed EVEN THOUGH the time which the features would be available would come at the same time?

yeah, until then not a dime
why I should pay for a broken product and await glory from the sky?
but right now I'd like to %@#%^# $%@#$@T @%$@#%@#!!@$
mainly the admin of SC2.net.pl for his censorship and shortsighted thinking, you are as much as corrupted by Blizzards attention that you don't even accept the facts

[Gifted]

yeah, until then not a dime
why I should pay for a broken product and await glory from the sky?
but right now I'd like to %@#%^# $%@#$@T @%$@#%@#!!@$
mainly the admin of SC2.net.pl for his censorship and shortsighted thinking, you are as much as corrupted by Blizzards attention that you don't even accept the facts

Spychi, This is part of the reason I'm asking the question. I'd like to know more about the people trying to share their thoughts and get to the true issues. What I believe is the case is that while Archer is trying to say things like "If these VITAL THINGS aren't implemented, we will have MAJOR problems" such as the identity issue, then answering questions like the one I did will help me understand further what his true issues are that he's trying to present. I'll admit, even though his posts have made some people want to pull their hair out, I just see him as trying to share a point that's being perceived as "I am the champion of community justice! Hear me now!". That's not going to help constructive conversation.
EDIT: and the points he's trying to bring up ARE very important, I want to understand his side more.

When I read that you think that I could be censoring the issue and be corrupted by Blizzard, aside from the fact that I put MASSIVE amounts of input of the Wall of Text you originally stated this about:

I'd like to just say thanks to those who worked on this article and adressed my concerns in a more polite way that I would do it.
Thanks and I hope it will work

When you compare that to what you've been saying lately, It leads to show that the origin of your words stem much more out of anger/frustration and can even be mislead from a site that has nothing to do with me or Blizzard. What it comes down to is that I perceive from the way you say things that you are trying to speak from the feelings/emotions in the issue, and therefore make it hard to discuss this in a constructive, non-emotional way.

My intention originally was to try and understand the logic behind your thoughts, but seriously, I'm concerned if you can get past your anger to get them communicated. I'm not insulting you, and nor do I feel insulted by your claim that I'm censoring... let's face it, if I were censoring, would that editorial exist?

[ArcherofAiur]

Gifted since my hypothetical situation actually has blue quotes to support it how about we answer that one


Edit: Im the "champion of community justice"? lol Im not even on staff at a major Starcraft fansite

[Gifted]

You first, and mine has blue posts to support it as well.

[spychi]

My intention originally was to try and understand the logic behind your thoughts, but seriously, I'm concerned if you can get past your anger to get them communicated. I'm not insulting you, and nor do I feel insulted by your claim that I'm censoring... let's face it, if I were censoring, would that editorial exist?

this is what I admire, that no matter how much a company is trying to corrupt people remain with their opinion
this is what I love in people, that they are not biased, that they don't suck someone's cock for the sake of staying silent on things that concern people
I can easily explain you my logic
Blizzard went completly mad in what they did in the past year, they think that they can do whatever they want to but I say fuck this, I won't allow this to happen and as much as I know how people will react when the release day will come, they will be like animals trying to get their hands of the copy, without knowing in what shit they step in to
I always concerned about other people, that is why I will be soon a politician and right now I am in the job union as one of the youngest and most ambitious members
they fill people with hope because in the past they always lived up to their games, now it's diffrent with all the bitching in a polite or badass way about Battle.net they didn't care and suddenly month before the release they realize that we want this and that, ignoring every single post in the past at their forums...
so now explain me their logic, cause so far I see only lies