This "game" is an abomination in the eyes of the Emperor!

[TargetBlue]

mmmm leman-russ tank...always liked using those. One of my favorite vehicles...and the mars pattern baneblade woot woot!

[//MavericK\\]

*takes off badly fitting fish bowl poorly painted as a Space Marine helmet*

Ok, time out.

Holy fuck dude. Can't you just sit back and enjoy the 20th Century allegory without backing me into a corner?! Jeez!

*takes a hit of his inhaler and re-dons his poorly constructed Space Marine Helmet*

Eh-hem....

Such questions are beneath me, Whelp! Your only concern is to remain fit for service in whatever capacity HE may see necessary!

Haha! Got ya! You are somewhat normal after all. I really thought we were gonna have to chase you down with a butterfly nets and stick you in a padded room.

You have a good writing style, though. I like it a lot.

[AdeptusAstartes]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3...-40-000/101422

Now, this is a game we can be proud of you, our Youths, playing! A game worthy of a young Man's attentions!

[Hawki]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3...-40-000/101422

Now, this is a game we can be proud of you, our Youths, playing! A game worthy of a young Man's attentions!

I'm pretty much inclined to paraphrase Shakespeare here:

"A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

40K games rarely have rarely given a sense of depth to me. Space Marine is little different.

[Hellgrinder]

Yeah. To be honest, the whole backstory of 40K feels like it was written by an Ork.

[AdeptusAstartes]

Yeah. To be honest, the whole backstory of 40K feels like it was written by an Ork.

*sad smile*

Ever read about the Battle of Stalingrad? Not "getting" Warhammer 40k's backstory is a sign to me that you probably don't read a lot. Here's some primer material to get you started:

http://www.amazon.com/Kolyma-Tales-C...6538792&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Whirlw...6538792&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Man-Wolf-Survi...6538792&sr=8-5

http://www.amazon.com/Gulag-Archipel...6538827&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Terror-R...6538852&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/World-Was-Goin...6538865&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Stasi-Untold-G...6538879&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Anne-Frank-Dia...6538925&sr=8-3

http://www.amazon.com/Rigoberta-Menc...6538951&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Storm-Steel-Pe...6538968&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Com...6538993&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Will-Boat-Sink...6539059&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Broken-Earth-e...6539106&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Envy-O...6539141&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Aquariums-Pyon...6539141&sr=8-5

http://www.amazon.com/This-Paradise-...6539141&sr=8-6

http://www.amazon.com/Socialism-Grea...6539192&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Execution-Hung...ef=pd_sim_b_10

http://www.amazon.com/Against-All-Ho...ref=pd_sim_b_7

http://www.amazon.com/Stuka-Pilot-Me...6539323&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Auschwitz-New-...0&sr=1-1-spell

http://www.amazon.com/Eyewitness-Aus...0&sr=1-3-spell

http://www.amazon.com/Cleanest-Race-...=pd_rhf_shvl_3

[Warsaw]

Umm wtf are with those books?

[AdeptusAstartes]

Umm wtf are with those books?

They are accounts of living a brutal "orkish" existence in various totalitarian regimes during the 20th century from it's early beginnings up until it's end from the people who lived under them. These books comprise only a tiny fraction of a fraction of the suffering and human misery endured under these regimes. I find it darkly humorous that various people, attempting to degrade the Warhammer 40k universe, imply that it is unrealistic or exaggerated somehow. Unfortunately, this isn't so. Pick a decade in the 20th century and crack open a history book. Start with Poland circa 1942. Makes the worst Warhammer 40k story you've ever read look dull. Or perhaps try reading Robert Conquest's "The Great Terror" where he describes Stalin's rule of the USSR during the 30's. Then, if you're really in the mood to be depressed, read all the accounts of visiting "fellow travelers" from the United States during this era describe in glowing praise the wonders of the USSR under Stalin's Rule. There was absolutely no hope.

[TargetBlue]

Incorrect. They gave medical aid and quarter to the wounded after those battles and sent them home with full battle honors. Imperium doesn't do that to traitors.

they were all traitors in the eyes of the Emperor
and there is no place for traitors in the ranks of the Imperium

[Hellgrinder]

*sad smile*

Ever read about the Battle of Stalingrad? Not "getting" Warhammer 40k's backstory is a sign to me that you probably don't read a lot. Here's some primer material to get you started:

http://www.amazon.com/Kolyma-Tales-C...6538792&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Whirlw...6538792&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Man-Wolf-Survi...6538792&sr=8-5

http://www.amazon.com/Gulag-Archipel...6538827&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Terror-R...6538852&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/World-Was-Goin...6538865&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Stasi-Untold-G...6538879&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Anne-Frank-Dia...6538925&sr=8-3

http://www.amazon.com/Rigoberta-Menc...6538951&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Storm-Steel-Pe...6538968&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Com...6538993&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Will-Boat-Sink...6539059&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Broken-Earth-e...6539106&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Nothing-Envy-O...6539141&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Aquariums-Pyon...6539141&sr=8-5

http://www.amazon.com/This-Paradise-...6539141&sr=8-6

http://www.amazon.com/Socialism-Grea...6539192&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Execution-Hung...ef=pd_sim_b_10

http://www.amazon.com/Against-All-Ho...ref=pd_sim_b_7

http://www.amazon.com/Stuka-Pilot-Me...6539323&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Auschwitz-New-...0&sr=1-1-spell

http://www.amazon.com/Eyewitness-Aus...0&sr=1-3-spell

http://www.amazon.com/Cleanest-Race-...=pd_rhf_shvl_3

Oh, I get the backstory all right. It just feels like in each edition, GW decides it isn't violent enough, and so ups the ante even more, to the point of ridiculousness, and sometimes even beyond. So in other words, like an Ork thought it up, and then Rick Priestly fleshed it out. And all those things seem more like the things the IoM would do.

And Astartes, how would you like to join a little group of mine called the "Troll Squad", used only when people on other forums are giving me crap. I'll let you spread the word of your Emperor on those places.