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    Quote Originally Posted by minerals View Post
    And if Sc2 has an unscheduled maintenance on that same day we will have to either go home or play another game. A game that probably won't be a blizz game.
    They will ALWAYS announce if they are going to have maintenance unless it is an emergency. And how often do you think that will happen? Does it happen a lot in beta? Yes, because its BETA.

    2. Map Making Issues

    Currently you can only have 3 maps published at a time. Each one of these maps may not exceed 20mb and may not have words like "blow" or "black". So if you have an RPG and one of the texts is "watch out its gonna blow!" or if you have a evolve game and your instructions are "step on the black circle to choose your monster" guess what? You won't be able to publish it!
    Do you have a source for this? I highly doubt you will not be able to include the word black or blow anywhere in a map.

    Or lets say you want to make a tournament that will be heavily publicized and a lot of people know your id or email. These people will be able to join any game you decide to make because you cannot assign it a password.
    Which is where the "Make game public" option comes in. If you don't want people you don't know joining, don't go public.

    3. No General Chat Rooms

    Now I know there is some speculation on clan/guild chat rooms and what-not but currently blizz has stated that there will be no general chat rooms because of SPAM. Thats right guys the spammers have WON. They have made a difference in a game. All of their spamming has paid off.
    They can't spam anymore... how is that them winning?

    Now lets say you meet someone in a custom game (which do not show the endgame analysis) and you think this guy is pretty cool. You want to talk strategy with him. How the hell will you be able to?
    It's beta I'm sure they will have a way to add people after a custom game by release.

    Different scenario. Your the clan recruiter. You want to look for some people to put into your clan. The only way NOT using a third party source (TL,SCL, etc.) will be to go play ladders till you drop. And if you find someone good you try to convince them by chatting in a 1v1 chat. That is going to make this 100% more difficult to find people to add in your clan.
    FPS don't have chat rooms and their clan community is arguably much larger than any RTS.

    A game many of us might hate or play and made by blizz is WoW (World of Warcraft). Most people have played it. Imagine wow without Genneral chat.
    Two different styles of games, you can't compare the two.
    Now you want to sell and item. If noone in your guild wants it how are you going to sell it?
    Hmm, I don't know, maybe put it in the Auction House which was designed for that very reason.
    Now back to sc2 replace this idea of "selling items" to "discussing ideas". All your clan mates are in a game. Who are you going to discuss it to?
    Wait for someone to finish or go to a forum. Just like pretty much every other modern game. Also there will be topic channels to talk about certain subjects.

    4. No Cross Realm Playing

    Another heavily discussed issue is the idea that you can no longer play with any other server than your own. Blizz's explaination for this is lag. Granted that could be an issue but an easilly solvable one. You play with people that have your same ping. If you live in America this means anyone you play with in the ladders will be american which solves any language barriers and lag related issues. What will this solve? You will be able to host custom games and custom melee and will be able to invite your foreign friends. Problem solved! The only reason I can think of that Blizz or should I say " Activision Blizzard " Would do this is for MONEY. My Brother lives in Germany. I will probably have to buy not just 1 but 2 copies of the game to play with him and anyone in America. Great huh? Cause the thing I want to do most is to waste money.
    Tell your brother to buy the US version. It's not that freaking hard. Battle.net was set up in regions because of WoW, it's not a suprise that SC2 is region locked as well.

    The last thing I want to end on is that both Blizzard and Activision are now merged together. This means that while they are separate and Activision has absolutely no impact on the game design itself blizz will talk to the same investors Activision has and it will be much more difficult for them to pull back a release date. So if for example Blizz has this problem that.... Bnet 2.0 sucks and fans are complaining and they go "huh maybe we should work on it a bit more" the investors will be like "hell no I want my money".
    Even if Actard wasn't in the picture do you really think Blizzard would delay the game after they have already announced a release date that is only 2 months away and which more than likely already went gold and is being mass-produced?

    Battle.net 2.0 is eye candy and that all. It has NOTHING different than Bnet than eyecandy.
    Matchmaking, actual friends list, private IM style chat instead of retarded whispers that are easily mixed up, IMO great ladder system, no getting booted from custom games because you have to download the map along with about 50 other things I can't think of right now.

    Wait no I remember what we have, achievments!
    And what is wrong with that? If you don't like them don't worry about them. But for those that enjoy them it is a great addition.

    and uhhhhh FACEBOOK INTREGRATION! Great Job! What is this focusing on? Not the casual players, no the people to stupid and with too much money. They hope people on facebook will go huh Joe and Bob play this game let me buy it. Huh it sucks. Lets go back to Farmville. Sc2 hurts the area between my ears where I should have a brain
    StarCraft 2 does not post anything to facebook. All it does is search your facebook friends for anyone who also has StarCraft 2 so you can play with them. There are no spam wall posts and no "StarCraft 2 App". What is wrong with letting people find out which of their Facebook friends play StarCraft 2?

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    It is funny that none of these issues concern my at all.

    No LAN - never used it, oh well. Sorry to those who did.

    Map Making - eh, I don't make maps anymore.

    No Chat Rooms - GOOD, all the original SC chat rooms were used for is spamming, advertisement bots and trivia bots. The only meaningful dialogue I ever had was in private chats, which we still have

    No Cross Realm Playing - Meh.

    Merger - Valid

    Seriously, IS THIS "Bitch At Blizzard" week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hav0x View Post
    StarCraft 2 does not post anything to facebook. All it does is search your facebook friends for anyone who also has StarCraft 2 so you can play with them. There are no spam wall posts and no "StarCraft 2 App". What is wrong with letting people find out which of their Facebook friends play StarCraft 2?
    There's a new phobia called myfaceophobia that has crippled millions from being able to social network. The fear that such a thing may come to Battle.net alarms the large percentage of these millions that are Blizzard fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Clawfang View Post
    It is funny that none of these issues concern my at all.

    No LAN - never used it, oh well. Sorry to those who did.
    Thing is, they offered LAN quality connexion (pseudo-LAN) for people living near each other, and I don't think I saw a single person confirming that as true. And that was one of the main selling points of BNet 2.0.

    As for region lock, well... Is there any good reason for it except monetary gain?

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    Anyone wondering why no chat channels this was posted on TL by Aro_X

    from this interview
    http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/...ersInterviewed

    "The new Battle.net will completely revolutionise the current version, but Blizzard is still looking to making this experience free for anyone buying StarCraft II or future games that use Battle.net. One idea which has been discussed in different iterations is microtransactions, meaning the service is free, but added value services like starting a custom tournament, league, or the like would cost a small amount of money."

    chat rooms allow it to be too easy to organize tournaments without buying a "custom tournament"

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    Im trying to remember when and I can't find the link and I definitly remember people talking about that on the forum but I believe it was that the matchmaking service and also the favored-unfavored thing on the loading screen were both not completely the same as in the retail version.


    Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItkBbsbygfA now that makes up for everything blizz has done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur View Post
    Anyone wondering why no chat channels this was posted on TL by Aro_X
    Pure speculation, and absurd IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hav0x View Post
    Pure speculation, and absurd IMO.
    your post is also pure speculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Clawfang View Post
    Map Making - eh, I don't make maps anymore.
    What about the millions of potential people who do want to make maps. If it wasn't for the custom map scene, BW/WC3 would have died a long time ago. More people play DoTA than the actual game. The limitations are crippling for a map maker. There's a big thread at teamliquid that spells out the exact limitations of the editor. Basically, if there is a banned word somewhere in the map (such as blow, black, white, come, back), Bnet will spit it back out.

    No Chat Rooms - GOOD, all the original SC chat rooms were used for is spamming, advertisement bots and trivia bots. The only meaningful dialogue I ever had was in private chats, which we still have
    And where will you meet anyone to get into a private chat? Sure, if you come in with a bunch of friends, it'll be easy to start a community. What about the person who doesn't have any Bnet friends? He is utterly alone, probably forever. There is almost no way to meet anyone on Bnet.

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    I made all my friends in SC1 by rejoining the same-name lobby after a game if I was interested. Can't do that here. I seriously have to wonder whether they are serious about keeping it like this.

    Battle.net 2 is way too devoid of basic features to have been worked on for so long.

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