Counter for Terran Metal as Z

[Kknewkles]

Tanks out of Siege do 15 +10 vs. Armored. Remember his shooting speed and you will understand which four letters do his presence claims for any Infestor - DOOM.
Thor - they just beat crap out of anything. =)

[VVheat]

Tanks out of Siege do 15 +10 vs. Armored. Remember his shooting speed and you will understand which four letters do his presence claims for any Infestor - DOOM.

All the infestor abilities out range tanks out of siege.

Thor - they just beat crap out of anything. =)

No they don't.

[Kknewkles]

All the infestor abilities out range tanks out of siege.

...So?
Sometimes you won't stop terran from passing those two squares.

No they don't.

Oh, they do. Let Infestor stand a second next to Thor. You'll see what happens.

[DutuCatalin]

the zerg players who want to counter the metal armies of terran must have experience..
if you can micro like a pro there is no problem with thors,hellions tanks or vikings

use all the stuff that can help you
burrow is great for roaches and infestors

you can sneak roaches in the middle of the terran ball,unburrow them and then the splash damage from tanks will work in your advantage
sneak infestors on a safe ground and mind control thors..
get ling speed upgrade,use the high ground..

[Hoywolf]

I don't understand what you mean, neither Thors nor seige mode tanks do any extra damage to armored.

If they were light, they'd get picked off by hellions. You should be happy. (picking off high templars with hellions is fun for the few times it happened.)

Your right thors and tanks dont do extra damage to the infestors, but either way Thors still 2 shot Infestors, Siege tanks range 13 beats your NP range 9. If your start a fight with T unsiege then grats to you, you have a very strong advantage over T now.

Other units like mara, stalkers, and immo do the extra damage to the infestors, i believe that was what i was thinking of.

[DutuCatalin]

http://blip.tv/file/3732380

[silencbank]

I was gonna say what DutuCat said. But instead of just telling you the link and letting you watch Im gonna add some stuff here about that video as well. Realize that just because TLO used ultras, zerglings, and infestors does not mean that will always win. He himself suggested that he was not sure if this build would work on different maps because of what his primary focus was. The Terran mech force is VERY immobile. By using his unit composition TLO was able to spread creep all over the map and harass all game long.

I think the big thing that any zerg should take from the video is not the unit composition, (which is pretty good) but the fact that you need to harass constantly at many different points at once. You have to abuse the Terrans immobility; be it with burrowed roaches, burrowed infestors, speedlings, baneling drops, or drops of any kind. And never ever attack an entrenched Terran mech with the thoughts of pulling out the win, it will probably be a decimation of your forces. You dont always have to win a war by beating the other with superior forces, sometimes you just have to outlast them.

[DutuCatalin]

I was gonna say what DutuCat said. But instead of just telling you the link and letting you watch Im gonna add some stuff here about that video as well. Realize that just because TLO used ultras, zerglings, and infestors does not mean that will always win. He himself suggested that he was not sure if this build would work on different maps because of what his primary focus was. The Terran mech force is VERY immobile. By using his unit composition TLO was able to spread creep all over the map and harass all game long.

I think the big thing that any zerg should take from the video is not the unit composition, (which is pretty good) but the fact that you need to harass constantly at many different points at once. You have to abuse the Terrans immobility; be it with burrowed roaches, burrowed infestors, speedlings, baneling drops, or drops of any kind. And never ever attack an entrenched Terran mech with the thoughts of pulling out the win, it will probably be a decimation of your forces. You dont always have to win a war by beating the other with superior forces, sometimes you just have to outlast them.

agreed
and always use the high ground,for me is the best weapon in starcraft 2



edit:and you must gather some experience,play some practice games with your friends as zerv vs terran mech
train your skills

[Hoywolf]

the zerg players who want to counter the metal armies of terran must have experience..
if you can micro like a pro there is no problem with thors,hellions tanks or vikings

use all the stuff that can help you
burrow is great for roaches and infestors

you can sneak roaches in the middle of the terran ball,unburrow them and then the splash damage from tanks will work in your advantage
sneak infestors on a safe ground and mind control thors..
get ling speed upgrade,use the high ground..

Do you consider this balanced those? That as a Zerg player you need to be more skillful than a Terran? It seems like you need to put so much effect into playing Zerg just to have an even match, not even an advantage. I guess its hard to balance the Zerg without making it too easy to play as well.

[DutuCatalin]

but who said that terran mech is easy to play,their immobility must be exploited by the zerg

you don't need to have awesome skills to use mind control or to do a drop in 2 places..
just practice..