Which is hotter?

[Blasterion]

my view is Hellions are Hotter however Thermal Lances are much more well focused comparing a thin high pressure stream of water to pouring a bucket of water something like that

[phazonjunkie]

my view is Hellions are Hotter however Thermal Lances are much more well focused comparing a thin high pressure stream of water to pouring a bucket of water something like that

Damn, that's another aspect I hadn't considered. Even if the hellion's flame was hotter overall it probably wouldn't make much difference if a large percentage of heat were lost to the surrounding environment before reaching it's target.

[drakolobo]

the thermal lance, are supposed to be fusion weapons, firing a concentrated beam of oxygen, agitated at high temperatures, a giant version of the real tool, used for industrial cutting, several capable of alloy plate or concrete. This coupled with the distance makes them better than that only flamethrowers plasma ionized gas fired energy charge, which I think is less concentrated

[newcomplex]

A blue flame is almost always hotter than a red one, and generally it is correct that the "cooler" colours are hotter burning.

The beams of a collosus are clearly not flames. Plus, it doesn't even matter beyond like 2000 degrees, after which everything burns white, and these things are clearly hotter then a welder.

Well, the screenshot from SCII establishes that the firebats's flamethrowers are based on something they call "combusto-plasma" (or something, can't remember the specifics). If they just shot plasma the flames wouldn't really behave the way they do in the games, the flamethrowers would look more like beam weapons.

I'd wager that the flamethrowers spew some form of flammable liquid, just like modern flamethrowers do, but the “combusto-plasma” part would indicate that this liquid is something very different from what is used today.

Aren't hot flames classified as plasma?


My first guess is that the matter is just a chemical so reactive that it literally ignites into a combination between regular fire and ionized plasma.


Then I considered Temperature wise though, I don't think thats possible. In order for plasma to be fire it would need to be basically the heat of the inside of a nuclear fusion reactor. Combustible material could never do that.

A better explanation would be that the fire is produced literally by a mini nuclear fusion reactor (thus explaining the "containment feild), in which energy is directed towards some gas/fluid, superheating it, and ejecting it from the suit. This would be quite similar to how modern flame throwers work.

You know, except how we use magnesium to light it up instead of freakin nuclear fusion. <3 how ridiculous terrans are.

The Hellion Pre-Igniter would be I guess an advancement of this technology. Considering modern flamethrowers are basically a stream of innert gas heated up by a ignitable material and shot out, this operating in a similar way except the ignitable material is heated up by plasma, a "pre-igniter" would imply that the fuel is heated up before it was fired. This could mean it was stored in the same area as the plasma itself, greatly unstabilizing the flame thrower, but I don't really see how stability was that much of a worry when your using fusion to power flame throwers, or it could be a seperate system is set up to heat up the innert gas in sized quanities before firing.


The burn itself however would have to be attributed to a different chemical property. They would change the propellant used in hellions with Pre-Igniters. Normal flames burn pure white at that temperature, in any temperture after like 2000? Degrees.

(also: I know something more 1337boi on a subject. woot)

The collosus probably uses a ridiculously strong laser which ionizes the atmosphere around it due to heat. The visual is consistent with that. The center burns extremely hot, white, plasma while the continuous source of heat causes it to radiate into your average <2000 degree flame, causing the orangish flame. A sustained bolt of lightning.

Chances are that the Collosus works with higher temperatures with the initial beam which can ignite and ionize the atmosphere, but the beam itself isn't doing the damage. Because it's such a long ranged weapon, artillery, along with the fact that it basically engulfs marauder sized targets, it would have to be not as hot as the hellion fire.


(also I'm voting Kerrigan. I have a thing for red heads.

Pre infestation of course....tho post infestation would be kinda kinky too xD)

my view is Hellions are Hotter however Thermal Lances are much more well focused comparing a thin high pressure stream of water to pouring a bucket of water something like that

It has to be the opposite. If the thermal lance was condensed, it would suffer incredibly from diffusion, incongruous with its role as a siege weapon), and it wouldn't cause its targets to vaporize after they died as combat units.

[n00bonicPlague]

Blue flame means a more pure reaction, which is why there's no smoke. With orange flames, there is usually smoke. Anyway, I think the Colossus's weapon is more like an infrared laser — focused heat — as opposed to the Hellion's weapon spreading heat radiation everywhere, but mostly in the direction of the flame.

[Pandonetho]

Or maybe it's mystical Protoss technology.

[Norfindel]

Hey, if you like that kind of rough examination, it's your problem

[drakolobo]

Or maybe it's mystical Protoss technology.

no, fusion
one giant weapon, based on a continuous flow of oxygen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_lance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMKBOoAOR7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV4r7...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U7d0...eature=channel
plasma used by the plasma flamethrowers is not contained by a magnetic field when it leaves , such as plasma guns (science fiction), so that the plasma is easily dispersed, so it is less concentrated.
"plasma flamethrowers"modern
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_cutting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZDJm...eature=related

[DutyFree]

Hmm, it would be neat if the Thermal Lances changed color when you upgrade them - I know the upgrade is +range, but I could see some new design that affects both range and temperature. Then again, maybe that would look too derivative of the hellions.

And getting back to the REAL topic of this thread, I'm with Selendis. Hey, if people can jerk off to infested kerrigan, then I'm allowed to like her. Besides, if I wanted to lech over a human woman, there's thousands of them just waiting for me on the internet.

[Corgon]

I would say the Colossus because it shoots lazorz. And lasers are super focused energy particles. Flames are just very fast moving molecules.