The UED's ships are really frickin' fast

[AdmiralMengsk]

I though it stated somewhere that the UED had been traveling for at least a year and had no knowledge of the Ksector happenings until coming out of warp?

To the people that keep saying faster than light speed is impossible: Nothing is impossible even if Einstein says it is.

[Rake]

I always thought that maybe the ships that the UED sent were fast but small. That would explain why they had to use K-sector stuff.

-Use small ships to take bigger ship
-Use small and bigger ships to take yet more ships
-Use all ships to take some territory
-Use terrorty to make units
-Use units to take more territory

[The_Blade]

To the people that keep saying faster than light speed is impossible: Nothing is impossible even if Einstein says it is.

Indeed someday we will find a way, but the result can't be measured XD You get a matematical incongruency if you add a number greater than the speed of light XD. Some say you travel to the past and others say you cause a big bang.

It's just about finding how to deal with imaginary numbers properly without calling steven hawkings...

[Norfindel]

In fact, Einstein said that accelerating an object to the speed of light takes infinite energy, that's why most theories about FTL travel are based on skipping the acceleration. For example: opening a rift in space/time to use a shortcut (wormholes, Protoss warp-in), or deforming space/time to locally alter it's characteristics (Star Trek's warp drive), or switching to another dimension where the normal space/time rules don't apply (writers like to make scientists screw this by making this dimension Hell, like in event horizon and doom).

I think most people agree that the reason *lore wise* that the UED had the same tech generally was because of the resources required to run local technology in the K-sector, which would be minerals and resources probably not found on Earth or its colonies.

They would probably need to just modify the generators. I think it could be justified more flawlessly by saying that the UED didn't wanted to risk their tech getting into the hands of the Terrans, and they assumed it was a good time to strike with minimal risk when everyone was weak (the Zerg Overmind was weak, the Protoss lost their home, and Mengsk was only beginning it's empire, after destroying the core Terran world, Tarsonis.

[//MavericK\\]

I though it stated somewhere that the UED had been traveling for at least a year and had no knowledge of the Ksector happenings until coming out of warp?

To the people that keep saying faster than light speed is impossible: Nothing is impossible even if Einstein says it is.

Throughout history "experts" have said a lot of things were impossible. And time and time again, they have been proven wrong to varying degrees.

Here are some of the general quotes I am sure naysayers said at the time each of these milestones were attempting to be reached. No actual quotes...just my idea of what was likely said.

"The Earth is the center of all things, heretic!"

"Man can not sail around the world, because it is surely flat!"

"Man will never fly like a bird."

"No one can travel faster than the speed of sound. He'd be torn to shreds!"

"No one will ever be able to travel into space."

"Humans will never be able travel to or walk on the moon. It is a fools errand."



I think Einstein was right about the impossibility of achieving actual light speed.

But he never said anything about the impossibility of going around the light-speed barrier (i.e. warp fields, artificial worm holes or space folding).

[phazonjunkie]

I think Einstein was right about the impossibility of achieving actual light speed.

But he never said anything about the impossibility of going around the light-speed barrier (i.e. warp fields, artificial worm holes or space folding).

That's generally what most FTL tropes are actually based on.

[Spartan13]

Throughout history "experts" have said a lot of things were impossible. And time and time again, they have been proven wrong to varying degrees.

Here are some of the general quotes I am sure naysayers said at the time each of these milestones were attempting to be reached. No actual quotes...just my idea of what was likely said.

"The Earth is the center of all things, heretic!"

"Man can not sail around the world, because it is surely flat!"

"Man will never fly like a bird."

"No one can travel faster than the speed of sound. He'd be torn to shreds!"

"No one will ever be able to travel into space."

"Humans will never be able travel to or walk on the moon. It is a fools errand."



I think Einstein was right about the impossibility of achieving actual light speed.

But he never said anything about the impossibility of going around the light-speed barrier (i.e. warp fields, artificial worm holes or space folding).

well yes...u got a point there sure....and dont forget about those tachyon particles ppl...anyways...

those quotes u posted...they were just arguments...or believed facts BUT none of them actually required anything to be pushed to its limits...making the impossible happen is one thing...but u have to determine just what is impossible cause some things are for sure impossible

[newcomplex]

I though it stated somewhere that the UED had been traveling for at least a year and had no knowledge of the Ksector happenings until coming out of warp?

To the people that keep saying faster than light speed is impossible: Nothing is impossible even if Einstein says it is.

Information Traveling through space without bending it results in logical paradoxes including arriving before you left. (Information includes physical things like people, etc)

Throughout history "experts" have said a lot of things were impossible. And time and time again, they have been proven wrong to varying degrees.

This is a fallacy. I can't think of a single person who used hard math that was proven wrong in the theorem itself in the world of physics without the math itself being wrong. None of the things you posted were posited under anything resembling scientific method.

If Einstein was wrong, it means that on the Newtonian level, that of bodies as big as people and planets, 1+1 does not equal 2. That arithmetic itself is wrong, and not on a quantum level, but on the Newtonian one.

[AdmiralMengsk]

well yes...u got a point there sure....and dont forget about those tachyon particles ppl...anyways...

those quotes u posted...they were just arguments...or believed facts BUT none of them actually required anything to be pushed to its limits...making the impossible happen is one thing...but u have to determine just what is impossible cause some things are for sure impossible

Wait a minute. So we didn't push man and machine to the limit to get into space? To the Moon? The sound barrier and flying weren't pushing things to the limits of what was thought impossible?

[Taoo]

The thing about mass is that it increases in weights as it reaches the speed of light by; m= m0/(1-v/c)^(1/2). Now photons are weightless therefore able to be the fastest thing in the universe but they still carry energy interestingly enough. So, if you can convert mass into energy and back again, you can go faster or as fast as the speed of light. Thus, you have the foundation of the Stargate.
To be able to convert a human for example you need to scan him/her/it down to the quantum level to preserve important things such as consciousness, and laws down there are tricky (Damn you Hisenberg!).
'FTL' is interesting and we as a species will probably need it if we want to survive our sun (the closest star system is 4,2 light-years away, proxima centauri, a red dwarf), because space is unimaginably huge)