Anyone feel SC2 is getting worse with each update??

[Skyze]

And fucking now LAG is ruining bnet.. I just lost one game due to lag making my mutas not move ontop of mass hydras.. then I fucking discconect.

Im so close to quitting this game for good. I rather play fucking WC2 instead of this.

I guess its true, Blizzard only cares about making money now like WOW, they are balancing the game for silver league players and the whole bnet 2 interface is made to cater to casual gamers.. this game wont succeed in korea/esports the way its going now.

[TheRabidDeer]

That just sounds like anger, since they made the roach change based on high level korean play...

Lag is very annoying though, and I am pretty confident its because of the UDP change.

Whats worse is that its now the weekend, so we may not get an update until monday =[

[Noise]

I guess its true, Blizzard only cares about making money now like WOW, they are balancing the game for silver league players and the whole bnet 2 interface is made to cater to casual gamers.. this game wont succeed in korea/esports the way its going now.

I'm pretty sure Blizzard are trying to make it balanced for high level play, they just aren't succeeding lately.

[GnaReffotsirk]

[Wankey]

I do feel that SC2 is starting to get worse. The beginning of beta showed great expectations. Protoss was overly powerful, which really meant that Terran and Zerg were due some great buffs to match that power. However, instead of increasing the intensity of the dynamics of the game, they decided to nerf protoss 13 times.


Protoss has been buffed once, its Phoenix with moving shot. That's it. Colossi I feel has been nerfed now since it can't even single shot zerglings anymore. Nothing bout Protoss has actually been improved since beta started. They still haven't started to address the mothership or at least try to give it some creative ideas (patch 1 beta mothership was damn fun). Carrier is just a legacy unit in the game for kicks. It's got absolutely no role in the game.

Terran started with the same problems as it does now. Marauder. Nothing new needs to be said about Terran except the marauder problem hasn't changed a bit since the beginning of beta. Sure they've made units more useful, but marauders will dominate gameplay.

Zerg, roach has been nerfed out of existence. The original play style of roach was fun and it was quite a dynamic unit with its burrow movement abilities. The problems with zerglings vs roach could've been easily fixed by *not* nerfing roach. Now roach has a very awkward position in the game. It costs too much to sustain them and hydralisks are much more versatile over roaches.

Overall, I think the general consensus of the beta is that it started amazingly strong, with huge amount of overpowered units and fun units. The fun units were slowly nerfed into oblivion and new roles were created. They took a very risk free approach in balancing this game and it is a big shame that rather than nerfing a strong unit (ie like a Queen in chess) they should've buffed a weak unit (ie adding more pawns).

"An inexperienced game designer might nerf the queen by allowing it to only move like a pawn, but this loses the point of the queen and decreases the strategic depth. A better solution might be to simply increase the number of pawns."

I feel that this is how the beta has proceeded. Strong units were nerfed far too much to bring it in line with weaker units. We've lost the strategic depth for improved twitch play and APM sinkage. Guess we'll see what happens after first expansion. I'll be a long journey to get SC2 back to the glory days of BW's perfect balancing act.

[Hammy]

Besides the whole "rage rage" part, I pretty much agree with your points on Bnet2.0. Right now, it's a terrible environment for gaming. Sure it's all shiny and is looking better, but no serious gamer gives a damn about that. It's just eye candy. If you want good looks just go for a walk in the park, the weather is great nowadays.
If blizzard wants to keep their fan base I think they should step it up a bit and remember that it's their true fans who'll be buying their accessories and swag. The casual gamers might buy WoL, but they might not come back for more once the next dumb EA game is out (yeah that was harsh I know).

Also, if they want to develop this as an ESport (which is where the big big cash lies), they need top players, and each of these players will bring a money-raking fan base.

You say that Blizzard should listen to the top players, but I disagree with that: blizzard should do their own thing. How about the designers do the designing and the players do the playing? Blizzard should just get some good players on their game-testing staff and work with them. The big problem with listening to top players is that they say tons of crap too. A good player might have a better take on what's completely unbeatable, since he'll have tried a million builds against it, but that doesn't mean that player knows which units should get X% of usage.

However, I do agree that they shouldn't be listening to the masses of players... I mean just take a look at the Blizzard forums.... it's pretty scary. Many of their current balance changes obviously come from the very low ranks, and really damage overall gameplay. I mean if a terran player was having trouble against 1-supply roaches, he was doing something wrong. And yes, marines aren't a unit you should rally into your opponent's base, but that doesn't mean they need a buff.
Overall, I don't really care about these changes because the game is still good, but it could definitely be a whole lot better...

[AFXFTW]

Yeah, it was bad at the beginning of beta, and everything's gotten worse. Blizzard keeps on surprising me with their level of nerd awkwardness. Nothing I've seen justifies the ludicrous development period. They need to take their hands off the game now before they ruin it, release it, and let the community fix things.

[RamiZ]

I just feels that every patch, the game is more and more balanced. Except Patch 13 where they didn't test that stuff, well there are players to test it.

[SaZun]

A lot of hate and anger in these posts. Calm down people its a beta let them tests things.

If you want to play with your overseas friends then make a EU b.net account and attach your game key to that account instead of a US account. Voila your workaround is finished.

Besides they did say they were going to bring down the servers for a few weeks to do a complete overhaul of the game. Be happy there is an infinitely small chance that in that time they add in a chat room system.

Overall be happy, you get to play a game that obviously you enjoy because your playing the game to death and enough that a little lag stops you from having your fix and you freak out. Not to mention your not even paying for it.

[spychi]

I said it once I will say it again, all the changes from last year BlizzCon are going in the completly wrong direction, the SC2 dev team went completly mad in their decisions and it's getting worst every week less to the release

Again I will give the example of Modern Warfare 2, good franchaise, with good starts ends like the worst game on Earth while the DLC's cost half of the price of a new game and the content itself .... well few maps for 25$...nice
if things will go in the wrong direction even more I will cancel my pre-order and call a boycott on Blizz's projects
it's all about selling a good quality game in a fair price but as far as I see the multiplayer itself is worth 1/4 price of the actual final product