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[DemolitionSquid]

I'm inclined to agree with this. I am currently watching the remake of V and, althought I totally enjoy it, I find it less believable than District 9. I don't honestly think humans would be so welcoming to an alien race as the show V depicts. While I am not sure if we would act as extremely as in District 9, I think our reaction to aliens would slide toward that end of the scale though.

While I agree, the V are not Prawns.

One looks like us, talks like us, and is freely giving us access to their technology.

The other are giant hermaphrodite bugs who are mostly simple minded drones, feeding off our resources and giving us nothing useful in return.

Honestly, which would you be more willing to accept and interact with peacefully?

[wannabemexican]

While I agree, the V are not Prawns.

One looks like us, talks like us, and is freely giving us access to their technology.

The other are giant hermaphrodite bugs who are mostly simple minded drones, feeding off our resources and giving us nothing useful in return.

Honestly, which would you be more willing to accept and interact with peacefully?

I'm not saying we wouldn't accept them, I just think it would have taken us much longer than the tv show depicts to accept them. I could imagine intense investigation into their medical proceedures before them being allowed to be used on humans. I would be suspicious of them for being so willing to share technology considering how primitive we are.

But you make a good point, the Vs would be more readily accepted than the Prawns.

[//MavericK\\]

While I agree, the V are not Prawns.

One looks like us, talks like us, and is freely giving us access to their technology.

The other are giant hermaphrodite bugs who are mostly simple minded drones, feeding off our resources and giving us nothing useful in return.

Honestly, which would you be more willing to accept and interact with peacefully?

Honestly...I don't think I would be all that receptive to either type at first. With both races having superior technology than ours (the mastering of intergalactic travel), I'd be scared to death. Not to mention, insanely cautious and skeptical.

With the Prawns, I would not want to abuse them in any way, just because they are stuck here and not contributing. They might have an entire fleet of rescue ships on the way. If that were the case, we wouldn't want them giving us a bad "hospitality" review once those ships arrived.

With the V's, I'd consider their motives for sharing technology with a huge degree of suspicion.

[Gradius]

Honestly...I don't think I would be all that receptive to either type at first. With both races having superior technology than ours (the mastering of intergalactic travel), I'd be scared to death. Not to mention, insanely cautious and skeptical.

With the Prawns, I would not want to abuse them in any way, just because they are stuck here and not contributing. They might have an entire fleet of rescue ships on the way. If that were the case, we wouldn't want them giving us a bad "hospitality" review once those ships arrived.

With the V's, I'd consider their motives for sharing technology with a huge degree of suspicion.

I'll have to agree. If we want to what a new species that's anything like us would do to a new planet's inhabitants we only have to look at how we treated the Native Americans. Giving us technology for example would be akin to us considering giving the Native Americans blankets riddled with smallpox.

[Quirel]

I can say without doubt that i'm not going to see any additional Avatar movies to the theater. Also, there aren't any avatars left, so if they make "Avatar 2", the name won't make any sense, unless the humans return and use avatars again for some reason.

Like how Back To The Future III didn't involve the future at all? Just 1885, 1955, and 1985?

Or how I, Robot involved little to nothing of what Asimov envisioned?

It's a sad fact that movies need to be named for recognition. While a different name, like Pandora, would be more suiting for an Avatar sequel, the 'logic' of Hollywood would dictate that all sequels and spin-offs must be named after the first.

Indeed, looking at Hollywood trends, I daresay that the next two sequels will tie into each other, ala Pirates of the Caribbean and the Matrix trilogy.

Really? I didn't see any part of the story that lead me to believe Tsu tey was going to die, or Grace too.

Got to admit, Tsu Tey and Natyri were the two characters that bugged me the most. I mean, come on, could we at least get more time developing why Tsu Tey hated Jake so much?

On the other hand, I really expected Grace to live...

But one thing I did like about the movie was the main antagonist with the 3 scars. He's pretty badass.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph.../ColonelBadass
Guess who.

I hope District 9 NEVER gets a sequel. Some movies are just so good that expanding on them, milking the franchise, can drastically lessen their value and impact. Sequels need to be approached with much caution.

I think you're missing the point. The movie is a looking glass on the apartheid. It wasn't meant to yell out "humans are selfish." It was meant to show the kind of things that happened in that era, and what could realistically happen if we were visited by alien refugees. Any "humans are selfish" interpretation is a mirror of yourself, knowing we'd all do the same thing in the same positions. The movie wasn't trying to send any messages beyond self-reflection.

I promised to kill myself if I ever started agreeing with Squiddie this much...
I will now leave the posting on this forum to my computer. Goodbye now.

Um...I was just saying that the movie itself, in the original theatrical version (aside from tracking down an original script) did not ever actually say what the mineral was used for. I can make assumptions all day long, but it would have been nice for the movie to explain why the humans needed this mineral SOOO badly that they were willing to kill the Navi over it. It never did this. I never really understood the human point of view. If one of the human characters had said something like, "We need this mineral or the human race dies in three generations...one simple line...it would have painted the humans and their situation in a totally different light.

That was the point I was getting at. Jeesh.

Two counterpoints:
1) If you can't think of a use for a room-temperature superconducter that wouldn't make the subjugation and eventual extermination of a minor alien race worthwhile, I've got a novel for you to read.
2) They did give a reason:
"See this rock? It's worth twenty million a kilo, and those natives are sitting on a massive lode of it..."

Go into South Africa and ask a De Beers foreman what diamonds are worth. Go look up the Black Hills. Gold and Diamonds may not have many industrial uses, but we've exterminated entire minorities and gone into some of the most hostile places on Earth to dig them up.

Now imagine something as useful as a room-temperature superconductor...

Now, I'd like to compare this to District 9. Both movies had phlebotinum (Unobtainium and The Liquid) but I'd say that Avatar did a better job handling it. Not only was it fairly self-evident what the phlebotinum was, but with The Liquid... It was implied to be a mutagenic liquid that could effect medical miracles, and a fuel source.

Ever since the premier, D9 fans have been coming up with all sorts of explanation, the best of which is that The Liquid was some sort of raw material that could be fashioned into whatever was needed, a sort of biological swiss army knife. In that case, it would also function as a genetic key-code to activate systems on the Mothership, and in it's raw form could warp non-Prawn organisms.

But that still takes a lot of explaining.

I'll have to agree. If we want to what a new species that's anything like us would do to a new planet's inhabitants we only have to look at how we treated the Native Americans. Giving us technology for example would be akin to us considering giving the Native Americans blankets riddled with smallpox.

Didn't Stephan Hawking bring that up recently?

[Centipede]

I hope District 9 NEVER gets a sequel. Some movies are just so good that expanding on them, milking the franchise, can drastically lessen their value and impact. Sequels need to be approached with much caution.

A traditional Hollywood sequel would be really bad, yes; but, approached with caution, it could be interesting.

Either way, I agree.

[//MavericK\\]

A traditional Hollywood sequel would be really bad, yes; but, approached with caution, it could be interesting.

Either way, I agree.

I think an indirect sequel to District 9 in the form of a novel or graphic novel might possibly be a more cautious approach to a continuation of the District 9 universe rather than another film. I fear a film sequel might suck and ruin our positive impression of the whole potential franchise.

[Eligor]

I think an indirect sequel to District 9 in the form of a novel or graphic novel might possibly be a more cautious approach to a continuation of the District 9 universe rather than another film. I fear a film sequel might suck and ruin our positive impression of the whole franchise.

One film is a franchise now? Goodness, we sure have come a long way.

[//MavericK\\]

One film is a franchise now? Goodness, we sure have come a long way.

Ok, so it's technically not a franchise yet. Let's call it a "potential" franchise.

In any case, a film sequel would be a mistake, I think.

[Eligor]

Ok, so it's technically not a franchise yet. Let's call it a "potential" franchise.

In any case, a film sequel would be a mistake, I think.

Agreed. The ambiguous ending is important (not many writers/directors would end a sci-fi action movie on such a subtle and bleak note).