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    The invasion and fall of Aiur was 2500-2503. Thats when a civil war erupted when Tassadar brought the Dark Templar to Aiur. Fenix was on the side of tassadar and i see no issue with the rebel toss being able to build dragoons. Stalkers were probably engineered after the broodwar as none were seen defending Shakuras. They would have already shown up to defend their homeworld.

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    It's clear the divide wasn't total and complete, straight down the middle. Yes, the bulk of the Khalai and Templar rallied around Aldaris, along with probably all the Judicator. Artanis, a High Templar, and enough Templar, sided with Raszagal and the Dark Templar however. This is the root of the schism: a divide not between Aiuran and Dark Tempkar (this has already been established) but among Khalai . That is what made it a civil war.
    Aaand sold.


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    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

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    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

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    You can clearly see this loyalty behind Tassadar when he goes against the Judicator by not incinerating Mar Sara rightaway - Zamara was there to witness it. The Khalai behind Tassadar are strong in numbers and faith in their leader, so it is entirely possible that under the leadership of Zeratul, a great number of Khalai / Templar rallied under Zeratul and Artanis when facing Aldaris, knowing full well the possible outcome.

    Protoss are very careful of civil war casualties, and it seems that wounds of the Aeon of Strife are still raw, when you lok at Zamara's and Zeratul's demeanor.


    Also, to clarify, "dark dragoons" were only created AFTER the Brood Wars as the unified Protoss decided to share technology to a deeper level, thereby allowing "replacement" dragoons made of willingly sacrificed DTs who were merged with a cybernetic shell using void energies of the DT.

    That's why they gain that ability to Blink. I thought all this was explained on the SC2 website...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zergkiller44 View Post
    A minor thing, but it's been bugging me for a while...

    Dragoons are from Aiur, correct? And the "resurrection temple" (or whatever) has been lost, so now the Protoss make Immortals.

    After seeing Dragoons, the Dark Templar made Stalkers that were inspired from the Aiur Dragoons.

    Yet in the Brood War mission "The Insurgent" (where you take down the Aldaris illusions), you are not able to build High Templar, but you can build Dark Templar (it's even the introduction of the Dark Archon), because you are playing as the Dark Templar force.

    However you CAN build Dragoons from your Gateways! Is this a mistake/retcon? Or are we to assume these 'goons are supposed to be Stalkers?
    A few knowledgeable protoss from Aiur brought through the technology that could create Dragoons. This wasn't an entirely dark templar force. Remember the 4 probes and zealots you got in the second mission, before the dark templar met with you? Dragoons have been discontinued in the years since then as there simply wasn't enough of the technology to make replenishing Dragoons as a fighting force viable. Existing Dragoons were retrofitted to Immortals.

    Part of this is logic, and part of it I read somewhere. Maybe the wiki. Still, it's an explanation at least. Oh and no high templar because no high templar made it through with that group, I'm pretty sure. Later those who did make it could visit the templar archives and become high templar.

    Again, just using logic and vague lore knowledge.

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    Yeah, I think Immortals are just new shells replacing the dragoon shell. If the protoss still has the tech to scavenge a critically wounded zealot though,..

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    Well, it would appear that they do, Gna. Dark Templar warriors continue to be teleported home and placed in Stalkers. Moreover, the short story Why We Fight shows Khastiana being placed in an Immortal walker.

    That would be an interesting plot point in the Protoss campaign: Dark Templar have rediscovered the secret to protoss-mech merging but refuse to share it, keeping you from creating additiona Immortals, and you need to solve the problem either through diplomacy or brute force.
    Aaand sold.


    Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
    The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow

    Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
    Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?

    The road's goal is the Origin of Being
    But be wary through what thickets it winds.

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