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Thread: Dark Dragoon Discrepancy?

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    Default Dark Dragoon Discrepancy?

    A minor thing, but it's been bugging me for a while...

    Dragoons are from Aiur, correct? And the "resurrection temple" (or whatever) has been lost, so now the Protoss make Immortals.

    After seeing Dragoons, the Dark Templar made Stalkers that were inspired from the Aiur Dragoons.

    Yet in the Brood War mission "The Insurgent" (where you take down the Aldaris illusions), you are not able to build High Templar, but you can build Dark Templar (it's even the introduction of the Dark Archon), because you are playing as the Dark Templar force.

    However you CAN build Dragoons from your Gateways! Is this a mistake/retcon? Or are we to assume these 'goons are supposed to be Stalkers?

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    I don't think those Dragoons were as faction exclusive as High Templars. HT are pretty high ranking and very representative of the Khalai Protoss. A Dragoon is simply a military 'vehicle' that is built on Auir.

    As for the Immortals, I don't think they are actually made at all. They simply refit any old and existed Dragoons. Gradius might have more info on that, read one of his post mentioning they might actually be able to make new Immortals.

    Anyways thats my view on it, I don't see a problem with it at all.

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    I chalk it up to the same couple of reasons why the UED looks exactly like Koprulu Terrans.

    Blizzard was too cheap/didn't have time/etc. to design new units and so just used whatever they had on hand. And what happens during the missions gameplay-wise is an 'abstraction' so to speak of the events that 'actually' take place. Like Marines that pop out of Barracks in the middle of nowhere every 60 seconds and never miss (unless shooting at something behind a tree).
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    The Dragoons just weren't the same kind of elite fighting soldier that the High Templar and Arbiters were.

    I mean they have Zealots and Scouts and Carriers. Those are khalai units too.


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    If someone ever remakes the SC1 campaign for SC2, this should be remedied. :P
    There is already a small mod that does something of the sort to the Protoss in SC2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcraft 2 site
    However, the overthrow of Aiur has proven that guile alone cannot defeat a foe as relentless as the zerg. Inspired by the ancient and honored dragoon walkers the dark templar have begun to build war machines of their own. The stalker is a machine controlled by the shadow-essence of a dark templar warrior fused into a metal body to protect his people.
    Stalkers did not exist then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoonx View Post
    Stalkers did not exist then.
    We don't know if that is correct. Stalkers may have existed back then (lore wise) or they may be a new creation with the help of the Aiur Protoss.

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    I'd like to raise another question:

    Why can't you produce High Templar? In the previous missions, you could still produce High Templar like regular units which means that Artanis and Zeratul brought some along in their fleet. So... what happened to them? Did they all die under Artanis and Zeratul's leadership?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hav0x View Post
    We don't know if that is correct. Stalkers may have existed back then (lore wise) or they may be a new creation with the help of the Aiur Protoss.
    What? How does that refute the words right from the official site? It states that they began manufacturing them after the fall of Auir. You bringing up a "maybe" when the most up to date evidence we have states otherwise.

    Point is, there were no Stalkers at the time of that specific mission he's talking about; according to the main Starcraft 2 site.

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    Default Re: Dark Dragoon Discrepancy?

    I don't think there's any in-depth answer. Separate factions are clearly represented by these units: Judicator Arbiters, High Templar and Dark Templar.

    Zealots are clearly of the Templar caste, as are carriers and Dragoons, yet we still have these, but having access to these is easier than it is to have Arbiters.
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