Newb ling rushes

[thegreatdevoid]

its simple if you are a noob dont complain if you get killed improve your building orders

[AdmiralMengsk]

How is a ling rush "newb"? I fail to see why people always call someone a newb just because they use certain aspects of games. I've seen Kdrac, Gifted, and maybe even crota ling rush. So they must be newbs right? Oh and if your getting beat by something as simple as newb ling rush then get better.

[SinsWage]

I always send 1 ling in to scope out the area. If you haven't blocked your choke or made some defense you will get speedling rushed. Why draw out a game when you can end it?

[silencbank]

At the moment I am trying to compare the speed of how long it takes 6 zerglings to reach an opponents base if someone tries to 6 pool you, which is really the only rush that pisses me off, the other rush...reapers, zealots, and 13 or even 10 pool, dont bother me at all. I have it timed that it takes on average 3 minutes to get 6 zerglings into your opponents base with a 6 pool. I have also worked out that it roughly takes 3:26 to get your first zealot out if you go a standard 9 pylon 12 gate. If you go 8 pylon 10 gate, you can get a zealot out at 3 minutes even with a second one ready to go 23 seconds later (with chronoboost). Oh and also notice I said average time to come into the base, on Desert Oasis it was 3:20 seconds (a longer walking distance) and on Steppes and Lost Temple it was 2:50 (Lost Temple may be askew because it was a 3 o'clock 6 o'clock spawning points). However, it still seems that 3 minutes in on most maps you could have zerglings in your base. Now, this takes nothing else into effect like micro cuz i just did these builds against the AI so i would not be bothered.

I will be the first to admit i am a newb, and know rushes happen all the time and thats all there is. Rushes are a part of the game as long as they can be countered. I just wanna know the community's ideas. What would you all suggest? Bring probes to help choke while second zealot comes? Complete wall off with gates? Against zerg i always use my gateway to help block my ramp, I do the zealot hold position as well, but its hard to hold position with units that are not there yet. Any constructive ideas will be great...and spamming l2p n00b!!...not constructive albeit probably true in my case. I would also like to know from a Terran player how long a "zerg proof" choke takes to build for this study as well seeing as how my Terran build order is well, non-existent since I do not play Terran..ever.

[TWD]

If you are protoss and my overlord catches you not blocking off the ramp as described, I will rush you every time. The only thing here that is noob is not preparing properly for it.

silencbank's timing is right about on. Here's mine for when you can get your pool up:

13-pool: 3:00
10-pool: 2:35
08-pool: 2:05

It then takes about 45 seconds for the lings to build, and somewhere around 45 seconds to travel to their base.

My 10 pool hits at 4:00. They might have 2 zealots, but that's not enough to completely stop the attack. Your best bet is always block off vs Zerg. Also pay attention to the 6:00 mark. If you survive the rush this is when I see myself as weakest.
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[Pick]

I always wall off against Zerg, hold position a couple Zealots in a narrow choke and it is like watching the movie 300 if the Zerg tries to A-move lings to your main.

It is important later also, not just rushes. A dozen lings tearing into your base can be painful at any point in the game. Much more controllable with a Gateway choke.

[Drkie]

It seems a 6 pool rush still gets me >.<

[Raif]

Hmm if you say 3 mins I don't think I have ever been 6 pool rushed!
And I'm in the noob league of them all. and rank 90 about a week ago
Anyway I'll do some test on terran to see the time on the block. -> about 2 minutes it is!

[silencbank]

well being in a noob league doesnt mean you will get rushed, the way i timed it was perfect. 200 minerals instant spawning pool, 2 larva to make drones, and then when spawning pool finishes youll have 3 larva and about 170 or so minerals which you can use to instant make zerglings. Next larva is ovie which will let you have 2 more larva when its done where you can make more zerglings and a queen since you will have the minerals. In copper league they may just not know the exact timing and therefore can not get the rush done right. In bronze silver and (sometimes) gold they maybe just know ONLY this strat and abuse it which is what ive ran into. (if they dont 6 pool im above 50% win). Btw ty for your info about the terran wall...but did you just build 3 supply depots for the wall or put a barracks in there as well? Did you do the "standard" 9 depot as well or just build them when you have the minerals? Anyway ty for the info.

[TheEconomist]

I believe a newbling is not someone who uses Zerglings when it's the best option but is, instead, someone who always rushes Zerglings and doesn't know much about what comes after that.