Is getting to Hive worth it?

[GRUNT]

The main problem right now is if you get scouted while you're morphing your hive your oppenent won't have much of a doubt why you're doing it...broodlords beeing the only good reason. Of course you can exploit that flaw by not doing them and surprising him but it's still quite sad.

The problem is that the only other Hive tech unit is the Ultralisk . And while a Terran player might be surprised to see Ultras instead of Brood Lords, it will usually be a pleasant surprise, because Marauders are something that Terrans would have in abundance, even without the threat of Ultralisks .

I don't know how well ultras fare against immos though.

Not well at all, lemme tell ya .

[Sigel]

The problem is that the only other Hive tech unit is the Ultralisk . And while a Terran player might be surprised to see Ultras instead of Brood Lords, it will usually be a pleasant surprise, because Marauders are something that Terrans would have in abundance, even without the threat of Ultralisks .

By surprise I ment like staying to mass T2 while he prepares for broodlords...but yeah ultras against terrans is like asking to get killed

[Blazur]

I've still only seen an ultralisk once in all my time playing or observing SC2 matches, and it wasn't used successfully.

Part of me wishes they scrapped the unit altogether in favor of something new and unique. The ultra was hardly ever seen in the first, and why they choose to bring it back is beyond me. Zerg already has enough returning iconic units.

[Sietsh-Tenk]

Compare this to Hive tech in SC1: Nydus canals, defilers, ultra-ling combos, adrenal glands on said lings, guardians, defilers. Please don't yell "BuT Sc2 iS nOt thE SAMe wAy, why u want it be the same?" (got tired of Breezah there), because it's no excuse for weak points in SC2.

[Gifted]

Move to strategy forum.

[LegacyofTerra]

The ultra was hardly ever seen in the first,

What game were you watching?
You don't get ultras in SC 1 until you have a solid gas income of 4 or 5 bases to support continuous production, and they are detrimental against Science vessel Irradiate spam and Marine-medic balls, and quite often found their way into ZvP games. The Ultra might seem fairly useless compared to the Brood Lord, but that might be because the Brood Lord is said to be a bit OP by a few high level players. Also, the disappearance of Dark Swarm hurts Ultra-ling viability by a huge amount.

[Hoywolf]

From my exp, when i was trying to mass BL, id start making a large amount of corr, but the time i start to get a hive and get a greater spire, the opponents are already attack me with VR or BC or mutas, and my corr seem to be much more useful, that i end up not having to use BL.

But in the rareness of gamers were i do get BL, i win. I dont even bother with the other T3 stuff that you mentioned.

[Todie]

Ultras could use a change / buff

also, It would be cool with a tier3 reserchable infestor ability. i woudlnt know what to do with its curent ability, but one possible route to take 'd be to make NP that tier3 ability, and compensate the infestor by increasing its life & burrowed-speed yet again

.... despite Infestors increased usability in patch 9/10 they remain somewhat dull to play IMO. spicing up tier3 could be aig part of fixing that.

[n00bonicPlague]

I've yet to see a situation in which Ultras would be useful. There's just so many things that can counter it that late in the game. If they can still be burrowed, perhaps they can be used just in front of your base's choke. Burrow them right at the door, and when Marauders come knocking, ambush.