Zerg were better off with the Overmind

[XSOLDIER]

I wonder what would have happened if Tassadar somehow failed in his kamikaze run; say, that pack of mutalisks were successful in bringing down his carrier. Would the UED have been able to overwhelm the Zerg? They wouldn't have been as disordered. However, the Dark Templar assassinated quite a few on Shakuras, possibly weakening the Overmind as Zeratul did on Aiur.

I like alternate history conjexture.

Funny... I almost posted this same conjexture. If that had happened, would the Zerg have managed to assimilate the Protoss? Because if they did, I don't think that the UED would have been able to stop them, as the overmind would have had vastly augmented abilities to withstand being psychically controlled.


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[Rake]

Not to me. The Overmind was great since the first instant it says: "Awaken my child...". The Eye speaking to you, the voice acting, and the awesome lines he speaks is a lot better than anything Kerrigan can hope to do.

I agree that all that stuff was awsome. But imagine how they would have had to keep the story going. The overmind would have had to be defeated militarily, or at least defended against. That is, they would have had to make it weaker and therefor less cool. The overmind had to die, so it could be awsome for ever.

I don't think that the UED would have been able to stop them, as the overmind would have had vastly augmented abilities to withstand being psychically controlled.

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I agree, I don't think the UED would have had a chance against the overmind. The Protoss, the most powerful species in the sector, practically folded in the face of the swarm.

[mr. peasant]

Funny... I almost posted this same conjexture. If that had happened, would the Zerg have managed to assimilate the Protoss? Because if they did, I don't think that the UED would have been able to stop them, as the overmind would have had vastly augmented abilities to withstand being psychically controlled.


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Even if Tassadar had failed, the Overmind probably stll wouldn't have succeeded in assimilating the Protoss. They still had a last ditch plan of fleeing to Shakuras, which they nonetheless still carried out with reasonable success. As for the UED, they would have probably faired better as Duran would not have sabotaged their plans (it's not in the Overmind's nature, based on what we've seen, to use subterfuge). As a result, Stukov would have survived. Also, the Psi Disruptor would have still been activated and the UED would have captured the original Overmind along with the entire Swarm rather than just the broods that had rallied under Daggoth's new Overmind.

[pure.Wasted]

As others have said, the Overmind is both iconic AND fundamentally flawed. If the Zerg remained no more than this alien threat lurking somewhere in the darkness, then the Overmind would be a perfect character to have at its head. Unfortunately, we have to play through 20+ missions of a campaign centered around the Zerg, and 20+ missions that don't have dramatic, personal relationships at its core is just not something that interests people on a purely human level.

Terran, Protoss, or Zerg, the characters in the campaigns have to be identifiably human... and while that necessarily diminishes the feeling of "alienness" for the Zerg, there's really no easy way around it.

[ArcherofAiur]

Awaken my child, and embrace the glory that is your birthright. Know that I am the Overmind; the eternal will of the Swarm, and that you have been created to serve me.



Best video game villian...............ever.



And a damn good rapper.

[Gradius]

I don't think that the UED would have been able to stop them, as the overmind would have had vastly augmented abilities to withstand being psychically controlled.

I agree. I think the first Overmind could simply switch bodies, even without assimilating the protoss, since it's a non-corporeal entity. It couldn't when Tassadar attacked, because it was stunned by the deaths of the Cerebrates. I think the warp-right above was not conjured by the overmind in that cinematic, but was a warp rift summoned earlier or by another cerebrate to bring in reinforcements, rather than help the overmind escape.

[Rake]

I have a question. It always seemed to me like most of the protoss casualties happened after the overmind was destroyed. It that right? And does that mean that the overmind was holding its swarms back?

[Pandonetho]

IIRC, the overmind was responsible for the destruction of Aiur and a whole lot of hell on Shakuras. I'd call that most of the Protoss Casualties.

[newcomplex]

As others have said, the Overmind is both iconic AND fundamentally flawed. If the Zerg remained no more than this alien threat lurking somewhere in the darkness, then the Overmind would be a perfect character to have at its head. Unfortunately, we have to play through 20+ missions of a campaign centered around the Zerg, and 20+ missions that don't have dramatic, personal relationships at its core is just not something that interests people on a purely human level.

Terran, Protoss, or Zerg, the characters in the campaigns have to be identifiably human... and while that necessarily diminishes the feeling of "alienness" for the Zerg, there's really no easy way around it.

Bah, Blizzards just shying away from Design challenges.

Starcraft 2:Heart of The Swarm

Mission 24:

The Overlord: I...I just wanted somebody to love me. My parents made me as some kind of experiment, all they cared about was that I became exactly like them. All I was trying to do was find my identity in the stars...AND THEN THEY ATTACK ME. Raynor....I feel like you're the only person in the universe who understands me...

[XSOLDIER]

Even if Tassadar had failed, the Overmind probably stll wouldn't have succeeded in assimilating the Protoss. They still had a last ditch plan of fleeing to Shakuras, which they nonetheless still carried out with reasonable success. As for the UED, they would have probably faired better as Duran would not have sabotaged their plans (it's not in the Overmind's nature, based on what we've seen, to use subterfuge). As a result, Stukov would have survived. Also, the Psi Disruptor would have still been activated and the UED would have captured the original Overmind along with the entire Swarm rather than just the broods that had rallied under Daggoth's new Overmind.

True, but as has been revealed in the DT Saga, even at that point, there are masses or Protoss still stranded on Aiur, which would have been more than sufficient for the Overmind to assimilate them (since it's very apparent that it's not been Kerrigan's primary focus over the last 4 years).


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