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    I honestly think that as cool as the Overmind was, the Zerg are for better with Kerrigan, because she does things that the Overmind never did. She plays off of her enemies' weaknesses and flaws, and she seems to have been taking time to design and improve upon the individual Zerg strains. I think that it's this caution of Kerrigan's that's going to play out for the Zerg's benefit in StarCraft 2.

    The Overmind may have been a far greater force of Evolution, but I tend to believe that Kerrigan is far more cunning - thus the Overmind's reasoning for not keeping her as a mindless subordinate.


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    there is the possibility was always intended as the basis of the new super keeping within a backup of it and for starcraft 2 she is the link to his resurrection without realizing

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakolobo View Post
    there is the possibility was always intended as the basis of the new super keeping within a backup of it and for starcraft 2 she is the link to his resurrection without realizing
    Yeah... no...

    I personally think Brood War is the vastly superior plotline to Vanilla StarCraft, so my vote goes with Kerrigan.

    But then I've always preferred when conflicts are more personal. The Overmind served it's purpose, and I think that Blizzard moved on at just the right time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Blade View Post
    The only problem with the overmind was that it's only purpose was to become "perfect", what a lame ending would it be.
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    It could not interact with its environment or with the enemy. (When did the Overmind ever speak to a protoss? Ever?)
    That's one of the things that made it great, how benevolent and powerful it was, almost like a giant Uber Cthulhu. Kerrigan just feels like a cheap trick, it makes the Zerg WAY less alien and scary, sure Kerrigan is a volitile powder-keg at all times and you've gotta love how sneaky she is.

    My main point is really that having a human who walks and talk and interacts with the people she is killing almost cheapens the Zerg by having them a little closer to humanity.
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    I'd rather have the SC1 days - with the Overmind being in charge and Kerrigan being a subordinate. The Overmind is much better off as the leader. There's no reason the Overmind couldn't talk to non-zerg either. When his mind touched with Zeratul would have been a good opportunity.
    Agreed. The Overmind knew his damn poetry man. He was that epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confalone View Post
    That's one of the things that made it great, how benevolent and powerful it was, almost like a giant Uber Cthulhu. Kerrigan just feels like a cheap trick, it makes the Zerg WAY less alien and scary, sure Kerrigan is a volitile powder-keg at all times and you've gotta love how sneaky she is.

    My main point is really that having a human who walks and talk and interacts with the people she is killing almost cheapens the Zerg by having them a little closer to humanity.
    Thats the entire point, considering your going to play a Zerg campaign from a 3rd person point and click perspective outside of missions.

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    The Zerg are all about evolution. This doesn't necessarily entail becoming "better", simply change in response to a changing environment. And the zerg hierarchy has evolved in order to survive over the course of the war.

    The Overmind served its purpose. Its scope of experience, knowledge and perspective probably outstrip Kerrigan easily. All the same, it had its weaknesses, which came to light with the coming of the UED. It was enslaved, giving DuGalle the reigns of command over the entire Swarm. The Zerg would have never have survived without Kerrigan. She orchestrated a series of events that led to the downfall of the oppressors of the Zerg and manipulated her enemies against one another in a manner the Overmind wouldn't have achieved. The Zerg survived and flourished.

    In the coming battles, I see the zerg changing in many ways, and Kerrigan's methods will probably become obsolete, the hierarchy and structure changing yet again to survive.

    The Overmind had its own abilities, Kerrigan her own. Each served their own purposes. In the end, they were both just tools.
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    Part of what made the overmind so cool was the epic way it died. If it had not died like that then we would not remember it as fondly as we do.

    Hopefully Blizzard will keep the epicness coming.

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    I wonder what would have happened if Tassadar somehow failed in his kamikaze run; say, that pack of mutalisks were successful in bringing down his carrier. Would the UED have been able to overwhelm the Zerg? They wouldn't have been as disordered. However, the Dark Templar assassinated quite a few on Shakuras, possibly weakening the Overmind as Zeratul did on Aiur.

    I like alternate history conjexture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rake View Post
    Part of what made the overmind so cool was the epic way it died. If it had not died like that then we would not remember it as fondly as we do.

    Hopefully Blizzard will keep the epicness coming.
    Not to me. The Overmind was great since the first instant it says: "Awaken my child...". The Eye speaking to you, the voice acting, and the awesome lines he speaks is a lot better than anything Kerrigan can hope to do. Kerrigan would been a very good subordinate that can interact with other characters. I agree 100% with Gradius.

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