What if the Queen could morph into a Hatchery . . .

[Sietsh-Tenk]

I don't see why you'd make the cost equal to a drone if the BT will be reduced. Think of the Orc Tiny Great Hall item from TFT: you could build a great hall in fifteen secs or so with your hero, but it was nearly twice as expansive.

Time is money.

[TheEconomist]

I was about to post this idea on TL, but then I saw this.

I guess there's no reason for me to ever go back there again.

Gotta say guys . . . don't know where I'd be without SC:L

I didn't read all of the rules, but, are you sure this applies to a topic like this?

Also, yes, SCL kicks ass. Best StarCraft forum and one of the best gaming forums.

[ArcherofAiur]

People need to realize that Teamliquid is a different kind of site. Should www.webmd.com allow anyone to edit entries like wikipedia? I think not.




StarcraftLegacy is great for allot of reasons. Teamliquid is great for allot of reasons. But they are great for different reasons and fill different roles in the Starcraft community. In the same vein BNET also has a purpose.

[Islandsnake]

Im so happy TL added those new rules, there was so many horrible threads going up lol
<3 Kennigt so funny

TL is a great community just like this one no reason to pointlessly flame them - its not hard to survive on TL and its a great bunch of guys - N00b you could put that thread in a blog I belive ;d Just need a bit more elaboration on why you think its a good idea and why you think they need it

Anyway about this idea - I rather see the queen do something that I can't already do with a drone >< Zerg already has a cheap expand, I don't find any trouble putting down hatcherys and when you take your thrid its usally in a riskyer location I wouldn't want to walze my queen up to my third instead of a drone..

[somebody]

thats unbalanced

[Arkalis]

Im so happy TL added those new rules, there was so many horrible threads going up lol
<3 Kennigt so funny

Yea, maybe they are good for keeping noobs away, but seriously...8 Platinum replays? Isn't that kinda...exaggerated?

And I differ in your sense of humor...even Archer's macro posts are funnier...

Even my humorless and bad planned jokes are funnier

[Islandsnake]

Yea, maybe they are good for keeping noobs away, but seriously...8 Platinum replays? Isn't that kinda...exaggerated?

And I differ in your sense of humor...even Archer's macro posts are funnier...

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Its not that, his post is funny(I did laugh a bit with some of his wording) but that kenngit himself is usually pretty funny when moderating and in general. And Chill posting "bulldozer online" right under it provided me with a smile ;d

I completely stand behind the 8 Platinum replays if not more, there was waaay too many balance threads popping up that were just flat out wrong which lead to flaming etc. TLs strategy forums have always been heavily moderated - its just they got tired of the influx of stupid threads that they kicked it up a notch which is fine, the forums will only benefit from strict rules. And theres also the blogs if you really want to post something.

And remember theres a difference between "help" threads and balance threads, claiming that something in the game is completely broken (ie warpgate push) should require a bit more merit. (already the fourms are looking nice and clean again, take a look!)

Either way this is NOT the place for this discussion, feel free to make a thread in the off topic fourms or something but lets not get too offtopic.

Another thing I was thinking about with this idea was, with how slow the queen moves across non creeped areas of the map, when do you really want to use this abblity? IT would be stupid to build a queen AND then take your natural and THEN build another queen.
I don't see one practical use for this =/

[ArcherofAiur]

Yea, maybe they are good for keeping noobs away, but seriously...8 Platinum replays? Isn't that kinda...exaggerated?

And I differ in your sense of humor...even Archer's macro posts are funnier...

Even my humorless and bad planned jokes are funnier

They want to make Balance threads require a high level of supporitng evidence.



And the TL moderators definatly are humorous. Youll notice that Kennigit's signature says

*********IF YOU PM ME ABOUT YOUR CLOSED THREAD YOU WILL BE IMMEDIATELY BANNED. PLEASE PM CHILL - CLOSED THREAD JUDICATOR*********

While Chill signature says

If you have any questions about thread closing or bans, PM Kennigit please.

[Triceron]

It's funny that people harp on TL.net for being elitist and only want players who have a reasonable sense of how the game is played to post about balance

I don't really see any interesting gameplay options with this. The Queen is slower off of creep; the Queen is a pseudo caster unit that has energy it can use to be useful at most any point of the game; the Queen is a 150 mineral unit that takes a while to build and is not as easy to replace as a drone.

This idea has no reason to be added other than being 'different'. Zerg don't have any problems with expanding or working with Hatchery costs, so this idea is adding another method of expansion that isn't being asked for. Zerg don't need to expand any faster, and sacrificing the Queen, a unit that has multiple purposes in a Zerg base either for macro-mechanics or as base defense (Attacking, Transfusion on buildings) makes little sense. It's like we could say a Thor should be able to turn into a Planetary Defense based on the fact it's big, expensive, and has big guns.

[Shadow Archon]

I don't see why you'd make the cost equal to a drone if the BT will be reduced. Think of the Orc Tiny Great Hall item from TFT: you could build a great hall in fifteen secs or so with your hero, but it was nearly twice as expansive.

Time is money.

The Queen could do something like this. Depending upon its cost, they could make it to where you could either lose the queen or not, where it lays the egg that becomes the hatchery.