Theory: World's greatest Terran?

[pure.Wasted]

All this storyline mumbo jumbo doesn't matter anyway because the Protoss get the last installment in SC2 aka. they win.

Humans in WC3 lost their campaign. I'm pretty sure Terrans in SC2 lose theirs. So I wouldn't put too much stock in that just yet.

[SaharaDrac]

Protoss don't have mouths. And by default don't have an anal cavity. Ergo, you humans are dumb.

Oh, they've GOT an anal cavity, baby! It's actually where they dispose of excess psychic energy. It comes out as blue vapor.

[DemolitionSquid]

The only place Protoss release blue vapor is their eyes, and I refuse to let you make a "cockeyed" joke Sahara.

[Pandonetho]

Correction: one Ghost can point a laser. Saying that a Ghost can singlehandedly nuke a city is like saying that Tassadar can singlehandedly glass planets.

Whatever man, it's coordinated work. Ghosts don't need to be macho men like Zealots to take them down, it's called being smart.

Actually, it's the Zealot who does that, not the Ghost. Ghost's use no psi powers in battle at all (except the more powerful ghosts in lore). Any random person could be a Ghost. Hell, even I can point a laser.

Yeah, and I'm sure the Ghost sent to kill Phash just did a million hand workouts when he crushed the guy's skull with ease, right? They channel their psionic energy into their hostile environment suit.

A psychic warrior that doesn't use psionics - only Terrans could come up with such a f00lish concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Clhp4a3vo

Nova punches some marines in the back with a blue light show to boot. Are you telling me those aren't psionics either?

Nova could easily take on Zealots in a fight. We see her in her game fighting Zealots and using siege tanks to destroy dragoons. And it doesn't take a PI 10 Ghost to use coordination to call down artillery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TybY_...eature=related

She fights Protoss warriors as you can see in this video. So basically, whoever's comment about the best Ghosts in the world being overshadowed by run of the mill Protoss in terms of psionic, doesn't mean much. Psionics don't win all battles. Technology, training, weaponry, humans know what's needed to compensate for their lack of psionic prowess.

Zealots = dumb < - FACT. All they do is run into battle with their hyper aggressive attitude hoping to die after killing a few guys. How they miraculously gain wisdom after becoming a high templar is beyond me. Khastiana, a top level Protoss Zealot herself lowered her guard and was shot full of holes by Jin's handgun just because she tried to save a human's true memories. It's foolishness in war like that, that gets you killed or crippled. And let's face it, the Protoss are full of it. Ghosts = trained assassins who outsmart the opponent.

Nope. The Koprulu colonies were mere blips to the Protoss and Zerg Swarm during SC1. Aiur had billions of Protoss on it, and one Protoss has to be worth at least 3 humans. The Swarm had accumulated centuries worth of units as they traveled from the galaxy's core to its fringe. Having the entire extended Zerg swarm warp in on your planets would have absolutely devastated the UED and the K-sector colonies. Hell, it had to be the Protoss since the Terrans would likely all be dead if that happened.

You're joking me right? Wasn't there an official manual or something somewhere? One that stated all the population numbers of the Zerg in each brood? Until that's retconned or something, the Zerg are merely numbered in the billions, as I'm pretty sure are the Earth people back home. Also, there's no chance in hell that the Zerg descending on Earth and its colonies would ever happen. First of all, Kerrigan doesn't even know where Earth is, and second of all, she'd be sourly raped by 'uber tachyon lasers' and all the other fancy gadgets the UED might have in store.

Not only that, we have absolutely no proof (that I can recall) of Kerrigan being able to open multiple rifts in multiple locations. Hell, the one video we did see of it with the overmind, he opened a giant hole in which all zerg went into. Now what kind of evidence suggests that Kerrigan would be able to open 20 different holes around Earth and have Zerg pouring through each one? Even if you managed a single rift and started pouring the Zerg through it, you're basically coming out of a choke in which you'll meet with an impenetrable wave of lasers and bullets. Humans, however (especially the UED guys), are quite capable of that feat themselves. If they truly felt the Zerg were a threat they'd send a gigantic army coming from all hells direction around Char. They did get to the K-sector in MONTHS need I remind you.

[Gradius]

Whatever man, it's coordinated work. Ghosts don't need to be macho men like Zealots to take them down, it's called being smart.

Yeah, and I'm sure the Ghost sent to kill Phash just did a million hand workouts when he crushed the guy's skull with ease, right? They channel their psionic energy into their hostile environment suit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Clhp4a3vo

Nova punches some marines in the back with a blue light show to boot. Are you telling me those aren't psionics either?

Nova could easily take on Zealots in a fight. We see her in her game fighting Zealots and using siege tanks to destroy dragoons. And it doesn't take a PI 10 Ghost to use coordination to call down artillery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TybY_...eature=related

She fights Protoss warriors as you can see in this video. So basically, whoever's comment about the best Ghosts in the world being overshadowed by run of the mill Protoss in terms of psionic, doesn't mean much. Psionics don't win all battles. Technology, training, weaponry, humans know what's needed to compensate for their lack of psionic prowess.

This can all be dismissed with my own quote:

Ghost's use no psi powers in battle at all (except the more powerful ghosts in lore).

Khastiana, a top level Protoss Zealot herself lowered her guard and was shot full of holes by Jin's handgun just because she tried to save a human's true memories. It's foolishness in war like that, that gets you killed or crippled.

Further proving that Protoss are the good guys, while Terrans are lowly scum. And Khastiana wasn't that powerful, she's only been training for 4 years tops.

You're joking me right? Wasn't there an official manual or something somewhere? One that stated all the population numbers of the Zerg in each brood? Until that's retconned or something, the Zerg are merely numbered in the billions, as I'm pretty sure are the Earth people back home. Also, there's no chance in hell that the Zerg descending on Earth and its colonies would ever happen. First of all, Kerrigan doesn't even know where Earth is, and second of all, she'd be sourly raped by 'uber tachyon lasers' and all the other fancy gadgets the UED might have in store.

1) If the Koprulu Sector planets can be retconned to have billions/millions of people even after they got sacked by the Zerg, then the swarms population obviously has to be retconned to be alot higher.
2) Protoss are still more advanced than Earth terrans. So if Zerg can take on Protoss they can take on UED too.

Not only that, we have absolutely no proof (that I can recall) of Kerrigan being able to open multiple rifts in multiple locations. Hell, the one video we did see of it with the overmind, he opened a giant hole in which all zerg went into. Now what kind of evidence suggests that Kerrigan would be able to open 20 different holes around Earth and have Zerg pouring through each one? Humans, however (especially the UED guys), are quite capable of that feat themselves. If they truly felt the Zerg were a threat they'd send a gigantic army coming from all hells direction around Char. They did get to the K-sector in MONTHS need I remind you.

I never said anything about Kerrigan. I said that if the Overmind targeted Earth planets instead of Aiur, you'd all be dead and it's the Protoss who would then both overpower and "out-zerg" everyone.

[warrior6]

This can all be dismissed with my own quote:



Further proving that Protoss are the good guys, while Terrans are lowly scum. And Khastiana wasn't that powerful, she's only been training for 4 years tops.


1) If the Koprulu Sector planets can be retconned to have billions/millions of people even after they got sacked by the Zerg, then the swarms population obviously has to be retconned to be alot higher.
2) Protoss are still more advanced than Earth terrans. So if Zerg can take on Protoss they can take on UED too.


I never said anything about Kerrigan. I said that if the Overmind targeted Earth planets instead of Aiur, you'd all be dead and it's the Protoss who would then both overpower and "out-zerg" everyone.

nope. a UED using local weapons and equipment almost subdued the entire sector with all three races against them. it would be bloody, but the UED might have even beaten the zerg.


and what kid of fruitcake (zealots) pledges homage to out of all the protoss.....

artanis. the worst character in starcraft and arguably all blizzard games and RTS

[Gradius]

nope. a UED using local weapons and equipment almost subdued the entire sector with all three races against them. it would be bloody, but the UED might have even beaten the zerg.

No. The K-sector races all broke their teeth on each other. The UED were nothing more than scavengers when they came in. And it was three factions that teamed up, not three races. Kind of a difference.

Seriously, look at the state of the races when the UED invaded.
Protoss: broke their teeth against the billions-strong extended Zerg swarm. Also, their full numbers are completely scattered. Aiur was just one planet.
Terrans: the main terran ruling body was destroyed by the extended Zerg swarm. 9 of the 13 core worlds all got sacked. Yet even after this, four years later, a planet like Korhal can have millions of people, and Mar Sara, which was totally annihilated still had 86000 people or somesuch.
Zerg: the entire swarm warped to Aiur. all of it. Most of the Zerg died there, and even though they can sweep the sector, those surviving Zerg are technically nothing more than mere stragglers.

artanis. the worst character in starcraft and arguably all blizzard games and RTS

Can't argue with you there.

[warrior6]

No. The K-sector races all broke their teeth on each other. The UED were nothing more than scavengers when they came in. And it was three factions that teamed up, not three races. Kind of a difference.

lawl the zerg were rampaging unchecked and raping everyone. i'm pretty sure terran + protoss + zerg strength was a lot higher than just the zerg when they first arrived.

Seriously, look at the state of the races when the UED invaded.
Protoss: broke their teeth against the billions-strong extended Zerg swarm. Also, their full numbers are completely scattered. Aiur was just one planet.
Terrans: the main terran ruling body was destroyed by the extended Zerg swarm. 9 of the 13 core worlds all got sacked. Yet even after this, a planet like Korhal can have millions of people, and Mar Sara, which was totally annihilated still had 86000 people or somesuch.
Zerg: the entire swarm warped to Aiur. all of it. Most of the Zerg died there, and even though they can sweep the sector, those surviving Zerg are technically nothing more than mere stragglers.

i dont think we should even argue about how fast the zerg can replenish their numbers and introduce and create stronger strains very fast. aiur was a decisive zerg victory. after it became a barren wasteland there was no real reason to get more zerg there.


the protoss who being soooo smart couldn't even wrap their heads around something like the psi-emitters or disrupters. they should have been able to reproduce something like that easily because of the massive demand for such technology. the UED made something like that and maybe even have more pretty fast.

Can't argue with you there.

hahaha they all forgot their greatest hero for some punk who was not only a joke but was also in one of the joke units of the whole game. it just shows that the protoss have no business with the word awesome and cool or even manly like the terrans and to a large but lesser extent the zerg

the greatest thing about them was them running into a battlefield knowing they might not ever comeback or get torn into pieces and never see or experience the khala again.......then that got retconned into lameness by them teleporting when they take damage...hahaha

[Pandonetho]

This can all be dismissed with my own quote:

And that can be dismissed with the fact that psionics don't win all battles.

Further proving that Protoss are the good guys, while Terrans are lowly scum. And Khastiana wasn't that powerful, she's only been training for 4 years tops.

No, Terrans do what they need to win. The Protoss are little sissies who want to read the mind of everything they kill for some kind of creed they follow... or whatever it is they do. And Khastiana seemed pretty powerful to me, managing to kill an Ultralisk. She claimed to be some kind of 5th level Khala student IIRC. Whichever the case, she was a strong fighter.

1) If the Koprulu Sector planets can be retconned to have billions/millions of people even after they got sacked by the Zerg, then the swarms population obviously has to be retconned to be alot higher.

And if that's so obvious, then isn't it obvious that Earth's should be even higher? They have existed MUCH MUCH longer than any K-sector Terran. Given their growth rate, how fast are they growing in the short few hundred years they've spent in the K-sector? The Terrans easily have the best source of energy so their expansion is limitless. Cold Fusion means they never have to worry about energy problems ever again. If Terrans managed cold fusion in a matter of a few hundred years, don't you think the UED would already HAVE it? Whatever argument you use against it, there's no proof for or against the UED outzerging the Zerg, but the logic speaks for itself.

2) Protoss are still more advanced than Earth terrans. So if Zerg can take on Protoss they can take on UED too.

Such a shame, I never expected you to throw such baseless claims Gradius. You have no proof whatsoever of the Protoss' superior technology. We've already had this debate, the only difference the Protoss have with regards to tech would be their psionics running a lot of their stuff. IIRC someone in the other thread a long time ago said a Protoss scientist probably wouldn't even understand anything that comprises of Terran technology, seeing as half their own stuff runs on magic.

I never said anything about Kerrigan. I said that if the Overmind targeted Earth planets instead of Aiur, you'd all be dead and it's the Protoss who would then both overpower and "out-zerg" everyone.

No point talking about ifs with regards to this. There's no possibility it would happen. The overmind doesn't even know the location of the Earth. And not only that, we reach a hypothetical stalemate with this. How exactly do you know the Overmind could beat Earth in its own sector with its own technology? For all we know, the Earth has designed weapons that can shut down rifts and what not. But we'll never know for sure.