Confession time! What's the one thing you hate most about SC2?

[Dalarsco]

It has nothing to do with moderation. The number of extreme Muslims outnumbers the number of extreme Christians and extreme Athiests by a significant number. They are psychopathic and happily suicidal. Either their destruction or ours is inevitable.



By technology I meant nuclear weaponry. Sorry it wasn't clear.



I'm pretty sure I've stated I am racist towards East Indians many times.

1. Yes, there are more Muslim extremists than other types. And yes, they are very dangerous. But they aren't the only Muslims in the world.
2. China has nukes, too. Plus, if anyone uses a nuke then everyone dies. MAD works both ways.
3. Most East Indians are Hindu, and most of the ones in Canada are Sikh. You're thinking of Middle Easterners. Most of which are also quite nice.
4. I'm pretty new to the boards, so I've never seen your bigoted views before or else I would have challenged you on them then.

[sandwich_bird]

Stop the religion/country/race discussion please. This is completely off-topic and starting to get pretty racist.

[newcomplex]

By technology I meant nuclear weaponry. Sorry it wasn't clear.

The Chinese have enough Nuclear weapons to cover the whole world a couple times over, and the US has enough Nuclear weapons to cover the world a few dozen times over.

It really doesn't matter.

It has nothing to do with moderation. The number of extreme Muslims outnumbers the number of extreme Christians and extreme Athiests by a significant number. They are psychopathic and happily suicidal. Either their destruction or ours is inevitable.

Not at the height of commuist power it didn't The Khmer rouge, a Atheist regime, committed more murders then any religion And thats just within Cambodia, ignoring the atrocities of the PRC and USSR. Together, Marxist Atheist philophies have claimed more lives then any religion has for the past four centuries by a several magnitudes.

My point is that this extremism isn't some nature component of their nature, but a component of their circumstance. Muslims outside of the middle east engage in no more violence then Christians do.

(I'm an atheist btw, and your bigoted ignorant views are pretty stupid)


Also, the Terrans are the people who got purged, not the people who survived the purge.

[arthas]

The Chinese have enough Nuclear weapons to cover the whole world a couple times over, and the US has enough Nuclear weapons to cover the world a few dozen times over.

It really doesn't matter.

.

That's completly FALSE ! ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uclear_weapons

China has measily stockpile of 100-200 warheads...And i pretty sure you don't really know the scale of the 'world' word....It is MASSIVE !

[Aldrius]

Uh, guys, you've been told to cut it out by a mod, might be a good idea to heed that... =|

I also fail to see how bugs in the game's programming are any more 'natural micro' than intended micro mechanics introduced by the programmer. The abilities themselves are broad enough that some interesting micro can be done with it.

For example, fast-moving Phoenix with anti-gravity and Stalkers with blink. You have some pretty durable spotters for moving up and down cliffs. You have anti-gravity to give your stalkers an edge in a fight.

As for the other races, there's Hydralisks with Overlords. Overlords make Hydralisks move faster (and can transport them), Hydralisks protect overlords from ATA and GTA units well. And there's a lot of positional micro involved with that. (Keeping your Overlords away from Vikings for example.)

And Marauder kiting... and... I dunno. I just fail to see how Mutalisk stacking or Vulture patrol micro is cooler than that. But it's just my opinion.

What I have yet to see is a micro arm's race. People don't use micro, so their opponent doesn't need to either. But I think when we start to see Protoss players making better use of blink. Zerg players getting more out of burrow and creep. Etc. etc. We'll see a lot more micro used in the game.

I'm finding a lot of it is the player's fault, not the game's.

And the macro mechanics have good and bad things about them. *Shrug* I hardly think they're JUST APM sinks, though. (Though that's clearly a major aspect of them.)

[dusthoof]

Mothership. There's nothing great about this super arbiter. It just has more hp and energy. Vortex is the same as stasis. It's build in Nexus and you can't replace it quicky. Opponent can simply snipe it down and in late game it's gg for players.

I also hate the new damage system. The counters are just too hard. In SC, no units are taken out that easily. Vultures with proper micro can take out some dragoons but in SC2 there's no way the Hellion can take out even one roach or immortals.

Phoenix are difficult to mass. It can't take out mutalisk when outnumbered like the corsair can. Now nerf void rays are nearly useless against anything. BCs can take them out very easily now.

Broodlords mess up AI. I feel that it should spawn broodlings after killing a unit not keep shooting them out. Ultralisks are not as useful in late game now due to roaches and power-up hydralisk.

Overlords can create creep but the animation is making overlords look like they are having diarrhea. Overseer needs to be morph now but changeling ability isn't as great as other detector unit. Raven has powerful ability and observer has clock. Overseers are just there to be snipe. I think blizzard may want to add an upgrade in lair to allow all overlords to have detection just like the movement speed upgrade.

Finally to I want to tell Dustin Browder SC is not C&C.

[dusthoof]

Sorry for my super long nag. I know some of you may disagree with me.

[TheEconomist]

I hate Roaches ... at the moment

[Eligor]

Funnily enough, one thing I recently found myself disliking most about SC 2 is the design and art direction of the UI. It's too baroque, and somewhat interferes with suspension of disbelief (I'm speaking particularly of the "Attack", "Armour" and "Shields" icons in the unit selection bar, they're far too over-rendered and look as if they belong in WarCraft III rather than StarCraft, especially Zerg and Protoss ones). There is much to be said for the simple, graphic icons of the first StarCraft and the unit wireframes in the selection bar. They felt more high-tech, or at least more used future/military sci-fi kind of high tech than the smooth, solid renders of StarCraft 2*. Also biological units (Zerg and Archons), were represented as infra-red scans when selected (and got colder the more damage they received). And Terran units used to have military ranks affixed to their names. I realize that what I'm speaking about here are very small details, but I've come more and more to realize how much such small details contribute to the overall feel of a game and wish Blizzard were somewhat more attentive towards such things these days rather than going for the flashiest option.

Just to add, I'm generally very happy about the 3D ingame graphics and even sound (Zerg and Terran Battlecruiser excepted). So this is the one big complaint about SC 2 aesthetics that I have left.

*I mean this:

versus this:

[mr. peasant]

Yes, wireframes are more reminiscent of classic '80s sci-fi. Though there is a certain charm attached to it, it's also time to change it up a bit seeing as how it's over 20 years old in style. As for icons, I agree that a symplistic style works better for a sci-fi setting since we ourselves use icons as short hand for things rather than actual images.