Favoreditism

[pure.Wasted]

Right now I'm 58/47, 1st in my Copper league.

I just went up against an opponent who was Favored (and beat him to a pulp). As usual against Favoreds, I friended him after and checked out his ladder. He is 84/84, 1st in his Copper league.

However it is they calculate it, here's undeniable proof that win/loss ratio isn't the only thing that's taken into account.

What really puzzles me is that he wasn't "Slightly" Favored. That would have at least made some sort of sense: maybe it's that he has more games behind his back, or that his highest rank might be higher than mine (though if so they have to be close; all I know is his was Bronze, and mine was Bronze #8). But no, the game decided that he was the clear favorite to take the match.

Why in the world does Blizzard not release the information that goes into deciding who's the favorite to win a match? That would help so much figure out if this was a bug or working as intended... as it is, I have absolutely no idea.

[Pursang]

Blizzard has stated that they have set the matchmaking feature to fastest instead of most fairest. I think there's also a post by a blue stating that they are aware that the "favored" feature is actually a bit buggy, and "favoring" the wrong side in a game.

Still a WIP.

[pure.Wasted]

Blizzard has stated that they have set the matchmaking feature to fastest instead of most fairest.

That's absolutely fine and understandable. I'm not really looking for fairness, I'm just trying to figure out if it's working right.

I think there's also a post by a blue stating that they are aware that the "favored" feature is actually a bit buggy, and "favoring" the wrong side in a game.

Still a WIP.

But should I have been Favored instead of the 84/84? If I don't know what the system is supposed to be doing, how do I know when it's working right and when it isn't?

[n00bonicPlague]

What are the "levels" of favoritism?

[Pursang]

But should I have been Favored instead of the 84/84? If I don't know what the system is supposed to be doing, how do I know when it's working right and when it isn't?

I honestly don't know that answer, perhaps its just a flip of the coin? Perhaps something deeper. Although I think it should there shouldn't have been a "favored" in this case.

What are the "levels" of favoritism?

I believe its "Even" "Slightly Favored" and "Favored."

[Xyvik]

1st: I have no idea how it works, but I creamed 5 "favoreds" in a row today, but unfortunately I never checked afterwards to see what their respective scores were.

2nd: Your "highest rank" thing actually works?! My highest rank was 27th, Bronze, but right now I'm high 30's Copper and it says my highest rank is the one I'm currently at...it's been doing that since I started. It never correctly tells me what my highest rank was. I thought it was a bug everybody was going through.

Not to be off-topic, but for the 2nd point, does anybody else's highest rank work?

back to 1st point: I agree we need some kind of guidelines as to what makes somebody "favored." Maybe he had more points than you? Was he a higher copper league? Is "1st" Copper league higher than "3rd" copper league? Does that have anything to do with it?

[pure.Wasted]

2nd: Your "highest rank" thing actually works?! My highest rank was 27th, Bronze, but right now I'm high 30's Copper and it says my highest rank is the one I'm currently at...it's been doing that since I started. It never correctly tells me what my highest rank was. I thought it was a bug everybody was going through.

Nono, that's why I said I'm not sure if his highest had anything to do with it. I know my highest was Bronze 8 (though now it shows Bronze 1 as highest, naturally). I don't know what his highest was, but I do know it's Bronze. At best (for him), he was at 1 and I was at 8. A difference of 7 ranks within the same league definitely doesn't explain why the game would be so confident that he was Favored.

back to 1st point: I agree we need some kind of guidelines as to what makes somebody "favored." Maybe he had more points than you? Was he a higher copper league? Is "1st" Copper league higher than "3rd" copper league? Does that have anything to do with it?

There's no difference between the leagues.

[pure.Wasted]

And if anyone wasn't yet 100% convinced that promotions are screwy, I just got promoted to 9th Silver.

Cause... y'know... copper > silver > bronze, or something.

[Hav0x]

And if anyone wasn't yet 100% convinced that promotions are screwy, I just got promoted to 9th Silver.

Cause... y'know... copper > silver > bronze, or something.

You aren't always promoted to the league right above you. If you are being matched with silvers and beating them it will promote you to silver.

And remember its beta, this matchmaking isn't going to be perfect right now.

[pure.Wasted]

You aren't always promoted to the league right above you. If you are being matched with silvers and beating them it will promote you to silver.

But before I beat 10 (or whatever) silvers and the game promoted me, I beat 9 silvers, didn't I? If 10 is good enough to be in Silver myself (at the top, no less), 9 ought to be good enough for Bronze, shouldn't it?

So why did I have 9 silvers under my belt but was still in Copper? This is what strikes me as buggy.

Also, let's say the game is ranking us on who we beat... so if I beat silvers all the time, I get promoted to silver. Well, once the release hits, I'm not going to be fighting silvers. I'd have been fighting players around my skill level (or what the game perceives my skill level to be) which would have been coppers. So I wouldn't have been promoted anyway?

And remember its beta, this matchmaking isn't going to be perfect right now.

Oh, I'm not expecting perfection. I just want to see if others have some insights on how this thing works and why it works that way, and such... so that my bug report can be as informed as possible.