I'm Sick & Tired Of MutaRoach!

[GRUNT]

Void Ray rush the Zerg and force him to tech to Lair or get Spores .

[RamiZ]

Of course you are. By getting Immortals, you force the Zerg player to not mass Roaches. He has to use something else.

This. It is the same as they go for Roaches cause of your Zealots. You are forcing them to go Roaches, if you switch to mass Stalkers, they would switch to mass Zerglings.

[arthas]

This. It is the same as they go for Roaches cause of your Zealots. You are forcing them to go Roaches, if you switch to mass Stalkers, they would switch to mass Zerglings.

You miss the slight difference that mass roaches will beat mass stalkers simply because roaches cost 50% less in both resources and supply...

[Norfindel]

Ok, those are the numbers. This is what can actually seen without playing the game, take this as you want:

Roach
75m 25g
145 hp
2 armor
16 dmg
range 3
1 supply

Stalker
125m 50g
80 + 80 hp
1 armor
10 +4vsArmored dmg
range 6
2 supply

                               Roach          Stalker      Notes

Life per spent resource     1.9/m 5.8/g    1.28/m 3.2/g    The amount of life you get per 1 mineral/gas spent (life divided by resource).
Cost of Armor               37.5m 12.5g      125m 50g      The amount of resources you pay for every point of Armor (resource divided by Armor)
Cost of Dmg vs Armored      4.68m 1.56g     8.9m 3.57g     The amount of resources you pay for every point of Dmg
Cost of Dmg vs non-Armored  4.68m 1.56g      12.5m 5g      The amount of resources you pay for every point of Dmg
Cost of Range                25m 8.33g      20.8m 8.33g    The amount of resources you pay for every point of Range

Read notes to know how was this calculated, specially for "Life per spent resource".

[RamiZ]

You miss the slight difference that mass roaches will beat mass stalkers simply because roaches cost 50% less in both resources and supply...

Yes they will beat Stalkers if you don't micro at all. First of all, Stalkers can focus attack Roaches due to superior Range, and Blink is better than Burrow for micro, also Stalkers can hit and run or even kite Roaches due to 2x their range and them being a lot faster than Roaches. The only time I saw Roaches beating Stalkers was when they were really badly outnumbered. Problem is no one even tried a mass Stalkers vs. Roaches, whenever Protoss see Roaches he rush for Immortals.

[Gifted]

Um... I do mass stalkers against mass roach sometimes (It requires a 4 gate pure build to do)

And yes, It gets hairy...

[Operatoring]

If Protoss doesn't let you control the pace against Zerg, play as Terran against Zerg.

Best advice in the thread.
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[DemolitionSquid]

I do not play Terran.

Ever. For any reason.

Its not an option or a solution.

[GRUNT]

I do not play Terran.

Ever. For any reason.

Its not an option or a solution.

Why all the Terran hate?

We're all Terrans here, after all.

[DemolitionSquid]

Why all the Terran hate?

We're all Terrans here, after all.

That's the problem. They're boring. Their story is standard human greed and their multiplayer gameplay is trite.