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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by phazonjunkie View Post
    Dude just chill; seriously.

    I'll be the first to acknowledge that the SC lore contains some glaring inconsistencies but this one is a rather small one and not really worth e-raging over. Not only that but it's one that's rather easily explained/justified.

    A nuke would typically detonate in the air or on the surface of a planet. Powerful enough and in sufficient numbers, they would only glass the surface of a planet rendering it inhospitable. In order to (conceivably) destroy a planet with nukes, not only would they have to be much more powerful than anything we could build today, but you'd have to drill several thousand kilometers into the mantle and detonate said nukes in the planet's core. And even then you'd need a frickin LOT of nukes. Granted, it probably wouldn't be beyond the Dominion's ability to build such weapons, seeing as how they already blow up entire planets during terraforming accidents, but just think about how much time and resources such a project would require. And that's assuming you were even able to clear the zerg airspace sufficiently to be able to carry out such a bombardment.

    Oh and FWI, there was a bit of a retcon RE: the nukes that glassed Korhal. They weren't launched from Tarsonis, they were launched from orbiting battlecruisers.
    And where i said they will destoy planet itself??? I know exacly how much energy it takes to 'blow' a planet and it's more enourmous then you imagine,BUT to actually cleanse every living thing on the surface takes MUCH less nukes ...I mean experts say that even a small nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan using only small nukes in few kilotons can make changes in the climate that will affect crops globaly and bring a crisis more terrifiing than we know ! , And please read more about effects of fission bombs then try to 'chill'

    In some sources says they were launched from Tarsonis and in others from 20battlecruisers...And why do they need to be in orbit exacly??? You do realise that you are not making any sense?

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by arthas View Post
    And where i said they will destoy planet itself??? I know exacly how much energy it takes to 'blow' a planet and it's more enourmous then you imagine,BUT to actually cleanse every living thing on the surface takes MUCH less nukes ...I mean experts say that even a small nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan using only small nukes in few kilotons can make changes in the climate that will affect crops globaly and bring a crisis more terrifiing than we know ! , And please read more about effects of fission bombs then try to 'chill'

    In some sources says they were launched from Tarsonis and in others from 20battlecruisers...And why do they need to be in orbit exacly??? You do realise that you are not making any sense?

    Then let me ask you this. The protoss, as we both know, have 'purified' numerous worlds in their attempt to erradicate the zerg. And their ships DO have enough power to burn a planet all the way to it's core. And as we know, the results have thus far proved....unsatisfactory.

    Now if the protoss, with their superior technology, have been unsuccessful in annihilating the zerg this way, does it make sense that the terrans could do a better job?

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by phazonjunkie View Post
    Then let me ask you this. The protoss, as we both know, have 'purified' numerous worlds in their attempt to erradicate the zerg. And their ships DO have enough power to burn a planet all the way to it's core. And as we know, the results have thus far proved....unsatisfactory.

    Now if the protoss, with their superior technology, have been unsuccessful in annihilating the zerg this way, does it make sense that the terrans could do a better job?
    If I'm not mistaken, it did work. However, Tassadar eventually refused to continue doing so as it also killed the Terran colonists in the process. As for nuking Char, would it also take out the network of tunnels under the planet's surface?

    Ultimately, Starcraft, like all other fiction, follow the system where logic and real world facts are superceded by canon and lore which are in turn superceded by the demands of the plot. Hence, as the plot requires the conflict to continue and actual battles occurring between the three races, casualty-free solutions such as nuking the enemy and purifying planets simply aren't an option.

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. peasant View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, it did work. However, Tassadar eventually refused to continue doing so as it also killed the Terran colonists in the process. As for nuking Char, would it also take out the network of tunnels under the planet's surface?

    Ultimately, Starcraft, like all other fiction, follow the system where logic and real world facts are superceded by canon and lore which are in turn superceded by the demands of the plot. Hence, as the plot requires the conflict to continue and actual battles occurring between the three races, casualty-free solutions such as nuking the enemy and purifying planets simply aren't an option.
    I already explained why the Protoss could not simply purify Char. Its perfectly understandable due to allocation of proper resources and the squabbles of political religious-zealot rulers.

    Quote Originally Posted by phazonjunkie
    Oh and FWI, there was a bit of a retcon RE: the nukes that glassed Korhal. They weren't launched from Tarsonis, they were launched from orbiting battlecruisers.
    That isn't really retcon. Nothing says that both can't be right.

  5. #65

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    This has an easy solution: as the Protoss can pretty much warp right next to the planet and purify it, obviously the Zerg have some way of stopping them from doing it.

    Being the central point of the swarm, Char would be heavily guarded with creatures flying around the planet to stop any attempt to attack it. They have sensing organisms that could detect something approaching, and get an early warning.

    My point is that if the Zerg still exist, they obviously have a way to stop the worst their enemies can throw at them. If nothing contradicts that idea, it's probably what happends.

  6. #66

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    In order to engage in orbital bombardment, you need to be actually in orbit. Good luck doing that with a bajillion mutalisks.

  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by newcomplex View Post
    In order to engage in orbital bombardment, you need to be actually in orbit. Good luck doing that with a bajillion mutalisks.
    OMG why the hell do i need orbit? When you can engage from much far? I mean doesn't it feel odd to travel between light years but have no weapons that can hit from outer orbit or let say 2 times futher??? And do you realise that nothing living can be in vacuum for more then a minute or so??? except probably bacteria who can survive what....an hour? But sticking to 'the Lore' i guess Zerg can,ok for that BUT How exacly can a organic 10 meter or something like that creature travel 10km/s or even faster??? Maybe it has 146 000 kg of fuel stored,maybe they can do that either??? Maybe....

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by arthas View Post
    OMG why the hell do i need orbit? When you can engage from much far? I mean doesn't it feel odd to travel between light years but have no weapons that can hit from outer orbit or let say 2 times futher???
    Protoss ships do bombard planets from half of the planet's diameter away(The beam goes through the planet all the way to the other side to boot). We don't know exactly what the maximum range of their weapons are though. They probably just wanted to make sure no large amount of Zerg escaped from the planet when they purified Mar Sara and the such. There is a perfectly good reason why Char is not purified.


    And do you realise that nothing living can be in vacuum for more then a minute or so??? except probably bacteria who can survive what....an hour? But sticking to 'the Lore' i guess Zerg can,ok for that BUT How exacly can a organic 10 meter or something like that creature travel 10km/s or even faster??? Maybe it has 146 000 kg of fuel stored,maybe they can do that either??? Maybe....
    If your seriously arguing this, why are you arguing lore????
    We know that Mutalisks can operate in space fine, do we know how? No. We also know that the Zerg have FTL Spore cannon launchers. How? We don't know. Im sure any reasoning behind it would be bullshit anyways. Suffice to say, it has something to do with Vespene gas. I'm sorry if I sound offensive, Im not trying to.

  9. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by arthas View Post
    Ok how exacly do you know that missiles can be shoot down with missile defence??? Is this has been ever tested in real battle situations? NO !
    Patriot missile defense system

  10. #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by arthas View Post
    OMG why the hell do i need orbit? When you can engage from much far? I mean doesn't it feel odd to travel between light years but have no weapons that can hit from outer orbit or let say 2 times futher??? And do you realise that nothing living can be in vacuum for more then a minute or so??? except probably bacteria who can survive what....an hour? But sticking to 'the Lore' i guess Zerg can,ok for that BUT How exacly can a organic 10 meter or something like that creature travel 10km/s or even faster??? Maybe it has 146 000 kg of fuel stored,maybe they can do that either??? Maybe....
    OMGMGMWMDWAMDMD SKY IS FALLING...

    Seriously calm down....just take the lore at face value or don't.

    And yeah, we already have stuff that detonated missles in the air with lazers.

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