GroundCraft 2

[Rylin]

I know that's how its been for a lot of the games I've played over the years but I'm sure Blizzard is trying to balance that out as best as they can.

That and we'll have to get out of our old habits of playing in that mindset and utilize every unit on the battlefield (per usefulness)

[The_Blade]

Still the game must not be oriented to go "air and only air or else u die"

like the terran bc there is no actual ground counter

[Tanker]

Prostoss mothership is a good example of a strong air unit...black hole and everything. It can destroy 10 units in few seconds. That's why the air units are for

[The_Blade]

Man...

Black hole is gone since 2007 XD
currently the mothership cloakes nearby units, got a timb bomb and a recall

[TheEconomist]

Wow, Tanker. How long's it been since you were on a forum?

[Aldrius]

A lot of people seem to remember Blizzard saying they wanted to address this issue. I hope they are taking this into consideration.

Does anyone remember where this was said?

It doesn't matter, it's obviously true.

A unit that deals 24 damage a SECOND after 9 seconds (and I'm pretty sure that's on normal time) is going to be killing ANYTHING really fast, even on it's own.

Mutalisks have always proven to be very strong units, and Banshees have triple their fire-power against ground targets and they can cloak for only a very slightly higher cost.

Vikings will probably see use with the lack of goliaths and their lower cost than the wraith for double the firepower against air, and substantially higher firepower versus ground. (Though I still wish it was in the factory... sigh.)

Air casters will pretty much always see use, especially now that the Zerg air-caster is their detector.

The Phoenix is also really good, even if it can't attack buildings (why would you want it to with the void ray anyway?). It's got anti-gravity which, when balanced will probably make it good against a wide variety of enemies (especially with how low it's cost is). And it deals triple the damage the corsair did to light targets, in exchange for splash.

And with that much damage, why would it need splash?

[Nicol Bolas]

A unit that deals 24 damage a SECOND after 9 seconds (and I'm pretty sure that's on normal time)

Um, the Void Ray fires a hell of a lot faster than that, if the BlizzCon build was any indication. I'd say it was around a Marine's rate of fire. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't take 9 seconds to ramp up to full power. I'm guessing maybe 5 seconds, but it was over 6 months ago since I played it.

In short: if you do not kill those bastards quickly, they will burn down everything you own.

[DemolitionSquid]

The known numbers are

6 for 3 seconds
12 for 3 seconds
24 from then on

at a "fast" speed. "Fast" is as fast as a Marine shoots.

[Pandonetho]

currently the mothership cloakes nearby units, got a timb bomb and a recall

Doesn't it have cloak units/buildings, teleport, and vortex? IIRC...

[Aldrius]

Um, the Void Ray fires a hell of a lot faster than that, if the BlizzCon build was any indication. I'd say it was around a Marine's rate of fire. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't take 9 seconds to ramp up to full power. I'm guessing maybe 5 seconds, but it was over 6 months ago since I played it.

In short: if you do not kill those bastards quickly, they will burn down everything you own.

I meant on a normal clock speed.

Not at a normal rate.

And Dustin said 9 seconds, but again that's probably on a normal clock speed. On fast/faster it's probably more like 5 seconds or maybe less.

EDIT: Oops. He said 6 seconds. Still, that's PROBABLY on a normal clock speed.