Need Help PvZ and PvT

[RamiZ]

I don't see why you have so much problems with Reapers, as Zerg you can so easily counter them with lings and roaches :/ How many Reapers do they attack you with?

8-10, problem is their Attack on buildings which does 40 damage... 10 Reapers can easily take out your Lair before you can kill them... At least that is what I saw on some videos. And yes, on the same video I saw that Terran player losing to that Zerg, even if he did destroyed his lair really early on. Reapers are gas heavy and then Terran didn't have nothing but bunch of Marines.

Loa, did you tried Sentries vs Mutas? And I mean a bit more than a few Sentries, since as far as I know, they work great vs Mutas. Even in they description says that they are Strong against them. Just a suggestion.

[Todie]

Sentries with stalkers should work.


Immortals on roaches if they arnt too far off techwise.

Your biggest tool against reapers is map presence, if you own most of the towers you'll see them coming. I havent had problem with reapers I knew were coming yet.

Also reapers are gas heavy units, if they rush to reapers - and fail to do any damage there front is vulnerable since they dont have any tanks!

this sounds very wise.

[rdragon87]

Reaper's aren't that bad, at least to me. They're just really strong early on, especially against Zerg. I do admit that the D-8 Charges need a small damage reduction, maybe replaced by a quicker firing rate for the charges. I'm just Theory-crafting, but Roaches seem like a decent counter to Reapers since they count as Armored, right? The Sentries seem like a decent counter for the Protoss, or at least help mitigate their bonus damage with Guardian Aura.

[Todie]

hells yeah. one roach can kill like 3 reapres i think. becsue their 2 starting armor realy does wonders aswell.

but i guess, with zergling speed & creep it isnt even really needed. but its an option if nothing else.

to speak quite freely, i think reapers would still be very usefull with an EXTREME nerf to the d8-damage ... 15 damage a pop would be enough!
but it might be mor intresting to keep it at 20-25 and give it a longer cooldown isntead, to promote hit & runs / target switching even more.

[Aldrius]

to speak quite freely, i think reapers would still be very usefull with an EXTREME nerf to the d8-damage ... 15 damage a pop would be enough!

I think I'd prefer they just stick the D8 charge back into the game... =\ Though if that still affects buildings it might be even worse...

[RamiZ]

I think I'd prefer they just stick the D8 charge back into the game... =\ Though if that still affects buildings it might be even worse...

It wouldn't be much worse, but as ability had only CD, no energy or resource cost, could kill all your workers, and couldn't be destroyed... So they basically could just put 10 mines, and finish workers and then run-away, come back when they have CD again, destroy your building or two, repeat...

[Drakkart]

it looks to me like toss going for like some wallin and phasecannons to fast voidrays are kinda like "immune" to the mentioned rushes.

[DemolitionSquid]

it looks to me like toss going for like some wallin and phasecannons to fast voidrays are kinda like "immune" to the mentioned rushes.

Walling in is very important. I usually build my first pylon and gateway or two to mostly block off my choke, leaving a space big enough for a unit to still get through, then use a zealot or later immortal to fill up that hole to act as kind of door. Its not nearly as effective or cheap as the Terrans supply depots which can now rise and lower, but it gets the job done.

[Aldrius]

Eh, isn't walling in with Zealots usually better?

[DemolitionSquid]

Eh, isn't walling in with Zealots usually better?

Not for me. I need to build these things anyway, might as well put their HP to good use.