The PC Builder's Guide

[Zigurd]

GTX275 is a no go, anyway anything that is now better than GTX260 is not worth buying even including the card itself.
Until nVidia won't release the new 4xx cards and lower the prices of 2xx cards it a no go for Geforce.
Instead of that GTX260 buy yourself a HD 5850 price almost same and the ATI card is better

Thank you ! Could you please be more specific ? I am quite stupid at this PC hardware stuff. All I know to take into consideration when speaking about v-cards is the memory (more is better).

You are saying the current generation of nVidia cards is old (the GTX gen) and compares poorly to ATI cards ? By what standards ?
Also, if I buy an ATI, will that be compatible with an Intel processor and other shenanigans ?

Please, I wanna learn to make proper purchases in the future :3

[spychi]

There is no problem with using Intel with ATI cards or AMD with nVidia.
The problem with the GTX2xx series is that those are overpriced and those are build in the older techonology.
Just look at the review of the HD 5850 which I recommended you instead of that GTX275
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...w-crossfire/19

[PhanttoM]

At the moment one of the major suffering about the nVidia cards, is that they don't support DirectX 11 - which isn't exactly future proof.

I prefer nVidia cards since I understand the hardware specs better. (As in: "X amount of hardware spec, gives me Y amount of performance when taking in reguard to the previous one I had")

[Zigurd]

There is no problem with using Intel with ATI cards or AMD with nVidia.
The problem with the GTX2xx series is that those are overpriced and those are build in the older techonology.
Just look at the review of the HD 5850 which I recommended you instead of that GTX275
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...w-crossfire/19

Thank you bro ! I would rep you if I could.

[hyde]

Felt like posting this if anyone wanted a reference.

StarCraft 2 Beta hardware performance.

I run...

i7 920 @ 2.67 GHZ
6GB 1600 MHZ DDR3 RAM
ASUS P6T- SE MOTHERBOARD
ATI RADEON 5770 1GB (HIS BRAND)

Running Fraps in the background, my FPS is capped at 80 in SC2@

SC2 Beta Settings
1650X1050 Resolution
ULTRA settings (MAX everything)
Note: Ultra textures require a 1GB Video card
FPS while recording is a decent 30-50, but video playback is at 60.
Feels like the FPS is capped at 80 or something (According to my FRAPS counter)
Game runs very stable, no problems ALT-Tabbing in/out.
Load time takes about 10 secs or less


If anyone wants to build a new computer just for SC2, you do NOT need a heavy machine.
You can probably do well with an AMD/Intel duo core (quad core is a waste to be honest)
4GB of ram
A nVidia 260GT 1gb / Radeon 5770 1gb calibre sort of card can run this on max NO problem.

[spychi]

There is no 260GT first of all, GTX260 that is and it doesn't have 1GB of memory but 896MB, on top of that you mentioned that ultra settings require 1GB of GPU memory, bullshit. Ultra settings use DX10 which is obviously only for DX10 cards.
I always laugh at those who think "oh i have a card with 1GB of memory, it's very powerful, while your card has only 512mb and it sux!"
I also laugh at ads when they only say how big is the memory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_card

Video memory may be used for storing other data as well as the screen image, such as the Z-buffer, which manages the depth coordinates in 3D graphics, textures, vertex buffers, and compiled shader programs.

[iaN]

Call me a nvidia fanboy but I just dislike ATi. There are other things to account in besides just performance. ATi is KNOWN for having driver issues most recently being the Gray Screen of Death. Personally I would stick with nvidia and go ahead with your purchase or wait for the newer series of cards that nvidia is scheduled to release shortly.

[spychi]

Call me a nvidia fanboy but I just dislike ATi. There are other things to account in besides just performance. ATi is KNOWN for having driver issues most recently being the Gray Screen of Death. Personally I would stick with nvidia and go ahead with your purchase or wait for the newer series of cards that nvidia is scheduled to release shortly.

what gray screen of death?

meh, fanboys should be banned
I had previously two 9600GT's from nVidia which was cool, but the power usage was too big so I switched to HD 4870 which is better, cooler, lower TDP.
I am not a fanboy but I know what is better for a consumer and for now all that I can say is that nVidia cards are OVERPRICED and they don't bring anything new.

If nVidia won't release anything good with the FERMI GPU chips than ATI domination will grow!

[hyde]

There is no 260GT first of all, GTX260 that is and it doesn't have 1GB of memory but 896MB, on top of that you mentioned that ultra settings require 1GB of GPU memory, bullshit. Ultra settings use DX10 which is obviously only for DX10 cards.
I always laugh at those who think "oh i have a card with 1GB of memory, it's very powerful, while your card has only 512mb and it sux!"
I also laugh at ads when they only say how big is the memory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_card

Sorry, my deep knowledge of video cards has clearly caused great duress on you.

Call me a bullshitter all you want, but to be frank - you're a jerk.




If you are implying that I think I have an awesome video card because it is 1GB and that alone - then you have clearly misread my post. Especially when I put emphasis that you do not need anything special to run the game.

[spychi]

Hahahhahahah I never saw bigger bullshit in my life.
Are Blizzard spec that tarded that they specify graphic quality settings to VRAM ?... hahahahahahahaah
I am completly sure that with the HD 4850 or the GTX260 I would max the shit out of the game. Pure tardness.
Blizzard have really "Good tech people".
All other games have attached Ultra settings for DX10 graphics...but Blizzard had to be diffrent.
I really don't know with what path they set the option menu...wow I am ...just wow...maybe it's because all of GPU's with 1GB of RAM support DX10... I don't know, there is alot of graphic cards that have 256MB or 512MB of VRAM that support DX10... Blizzard never cease to amaze me.