The PC Builder's Guide

[Twohands]

Great write up!

Can anyone tell me what type of performance difference you would find with these four CPUs?

Intel core i7 930 - 299.99
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition - 224.99
AMD Phenom II 1055T Six Core Processor - 204.97
AMD Phenom II 1090T Six Core Processor- 315.99

Thanks

[spychi]

Huh? Why not? And what is "mobo-GPU bus speed," why would it force me to replace my RAM and motherboard?

because it's crappy :P
2x512MB? like seriously?

[spychi]

Great write up!

Can anyone tell me what type of performance difference you would find with these four CPUs?

Intel core i7 930 - 299.99
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition - 224.99
AMD Phenom II 1055T Six Core Processor - 204.97
AMD Phenom II 1090T Six Core Processor- 315.99

Thanks

Intel core i7 930 - 299.99 - X58 chipset motherboard supports this CPU and they are a bit more expensive, add to that triple channel memory which is also a bit more expensive, higher TDP than the i7-860 on 130W level while the i7-860 TDP is 95W, the frequency is the same same as the OC
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition - 224.99 not the fastest Phenom II, yet the most popular AMD CPU, after the release of 965BE which is faster and has a bigger OC potential the older one got less popular, AMD mobo's are cheaper than intel ones

AMD Phenom II 1055T Six Core Processor - 204.97
AMD Phenom II 1090T Six Core Processor- 315.99
http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom...-1090t-review/
read this article and you will know everything
as from me, it's a new series of fast 6 core CPU's from AMD cheaper from Intel's i7-980X yet in gaming they are obviously slower than the intel's six cores, but AMD's thubans are more likely to fight on the market with the i7 4 cores like the i7-945, i7-920, i7-930, i7-875, i7-870, i7-860
those six cores require 890GFX, 890FX and so on - chipsets from the AM3 socket motherboards
soo far the best thing to do is to buy the high end motherboards from Gigabyte or Asus

[silencbank]

Huh? Why not? And what is "mobo-GPU bus speed," why would it force me to replace my RAM and motherboard?

The mobo GPU bus speed is how fast the motherboard and videocard talk to each other. So it does not matter how fast the card wants to send data, if the mobo can not read it that fast. If you want a "general" idea of what you might need to run sc2 nicely go to http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...rk,2611-9.html. It is not set in stone about its greatness but its a good idea to start. On the end of the right up it says a dual core at 2Ghz or more can take the stress to run it at medium. A few tips though, never just use the onboard video. The onboard video does not have a stand alone processor like the cards do, and therefore just uses the cpu itself. I have a 2.8 Ghz dual core with a 512 mb ati hd 4300 series videocard and 2GB of ram. It can pull off medium fine, but I just use low setting so I can use programs in the background. SC2 is not as graphically intense as some other games that are coming out so you can still go old school. But the one you got is just a bit of an underachiever so tossing it to buy a baseline computer is cheaper and easier than upgrading older computers due to lack of space available for upgrading out of the box computers.

[Drake Clawfang]

So in answer to my original posting here, would it be easier to just get an entirely new PC with what I need already there, then upgrading this one? Keep in mind we'll be getting a new one anyway, just a matter of if it goes right to me or goes to my parents and I get theirs, the one I'm using now.

[spychi]

So in answer to my original posting here, would it be easier to just get an entirely new PC with what I need already there, then upgrading this one? Keep in mind we'll be getting a new one anyway, just a matter of if it goes right to me or goes to my parents and I get theirs, the one I'm using now.

yes, a new custom made PC is better

[mikill]

spychi, about the ram problem you where having what do you suggest if it is running at the correct voltage about 1.5148 volts for a 1.5v ram?

[spychi]

on the ram box there is 1.5V written?
if so, everything is ok as far as it's not overclocked and you issue might be diffrent nature, yet I would suggest to lower it down to equal 1.5
for example my Corsair ram at 1600MHz should be powered by 1.65V according to my box, but at 1800MHz I ran them with 1.5Voltage so increased it just to check if it will help and it did
I lowered the voltage for few reasons, one that I want the RIG to use less wattage and second because people said that those should run at that voltage with no problem

[Drake Clawfang]

The mobo GPU bus speed is how fast the motherboard and videocard talk to each other. So it does not matter how fast the card wants to send data, if the mobo can not read it that fast. If you want a "general" idea of what you might need to run sc2 nicely go to http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...rk,2611-9.html. It is not set in stone about its greatness but its a good idea to start.

Thanks very much, if I get a new PC I'm gonna have to bring the syst specs along to look.

[mikill]

on the ram box there is 1.5V written?
if so, everything is ok as far as it's not overclocked and you issue might be diffrent nature, yet I would suggest to lower it down to equal 1.5
for example my Corsair ram at 1600MHz should be powered by 1.65V according to my box, but at 1800MHz I ran them with 1.5Voltage so increased it just to check if it will help and it did
I lowered the voltage for few reasons, one that I want the RIG to use less wattage and second because people said that those should run at that voltage with no problem

Ok yes it says 1.5 but i'll try that thanks.