I think we're getting into the kind of krypto-lore Blizzard doesn't worry about, this is all I'm really referring to.
01-12-2010, 03:24 PM
#11
I think we're getting into the kind of krypto-lore Blizzard doesn't worry about, this is all I'm really referring to.
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01-12-2010, 03:32 PM
#12
When you're talking about the Void and being able to avoid the Protoss' detection of everything tangible to our universe, it's pretty much on the same vein of being extra-dimensional, even if it's not directly that.
The point is, it's a horrible creature/thing/entity that comes from places that are hidden/unknown to us. Lovecraft style.
01-12-2010, 05:13 PM
#13
The Frontline series is over, so it's doubtful the Voice will appear there. I hope it appears in a side mission or something, but I wouldn't want it to be a major plot point in StarCraft II.
The creature has a "physical" form, which the dark templar could cut with their warp blades. I think enough void rays could have killed it.
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01-12-2010, 05:41 PM
#14
Had the Protoss possessed any amount of self-control, they could've a-VOID-ed the situation altogether.
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01-12-2010, 06:15 PM
#15
Plot-hole/narrative device. Doesn't mean it floats into higher dimensions. Doesn't mean it doesn't, either. What matters is that it happened, and we can't explore the precise mechanics behind it at this point.I don't know if it would work that way. The Protoss would have detected huge gravity waves if it bent space to hide itself.
If this is the power that has been "sleeping for countless ages", I'm a little disappointed. I'd prefer if its release were explored in the campaigns rather than a comic. Resorting to amorphous energy entities is a bit of a cop-out in my opinion.
I just had a random thought, though. I wonder if the Overmind might be the child of the Voice. Not literally, of course. I'm saying there are similarities between the two. Maybe the Voice inspired the Xel'Naga to create the Overmind the way they did?
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01-12-2010, 07:17 PM
#16
Near the end, when the dark templar are about to directly attack it. I think the prison was weakened by Morrigan (but wasn't completely undone). The Voice directly (physically) attacked the dark templar, who then tried to re-seal it. However, that didn't seem to work.
I got the impression that the creature was weak from its imprisonment, so "now" was the best time to beat it. The dark templar almost won, too.
IF. You only say this because you're attributing a lot more importance to the story than it actually has. It's a one-off; I doubt it'll be referenced again. The timing alone (sealed before the destruction of the xel'naga; otherwise how could the xel'naga have beaten it) renders it fairly irrelevant to the StarCraft universe.
What sort of similarities are you talking about? I'm not seeing anything, other than tentacles.I just had a random thought, though. I wonder if the Overmind might be the child of the Voice. Not literally, of course. I'm saying there are similarities between the two. Maybe the Voice inspired the Xel'Naga to create the Overmind the way they did?
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01-12-2010, 07:58 PM
#17
I hope you're right. Probably are. It just seems like such a powerful entity. For the writers to have it floating around out there and not do anything more with it seems... pointless?The timing alone [...] renders it fairly irrelevant to the StarCraft universe.
Mm, maybe I got a bit ahead of myself. Both are powerful entities. One essentially aspires to godhood, while the other has achieved such a state. Both act through smaller vessels and incorporate others into themselves. Void-based.What sort of similarities are you talking about?
EDIT Oh yeah, and Cerebrates look very much the same when slain, according to QoB, just luminescent instead of black. Wonder if the Overmind had a similar form?
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Aaand sold.
Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
The Forger's wake is bereft and fallow
Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?
The road's goal is the Origin of Being
But be wary through what thickets it winds.
01-12-2010, 08:05 PM
#18
The Overmind was created despite the Xel'Naga's efforts, it was a residual effect from the creation of their perfect species with 'purity of essence'. The Overmind was formed as a method of control for that particular hive conciousness.
To even think Blizzard would tie the idea of the Overmind's inception to a one-off character from the manga is an injustice to the series. It's as bad as the Midichlorian explanation of the force from Episode 1. Do not want.
01-12-2010, 09:04 PM
#19
But it probably does.
It's practically forced upon us when he calls himself "the lord of the in-between places".
That'd be after it was already freed. It was locked up nice & secure before Morrigan came by. Even the back cover description says it wasn't heard from until now.
I think the voice tricked them. Morrigan said that the crystal was the lock to his prison, but then Xy'tal, after he was corrupted, said the exact opposite, that the crystal is the key (almost as if the voice put the wrong information into his head). It looks like the voice tricked them into destroying the crystal: "if you destroy it, the psi energy will kill us both"I got the impression that the creature was weak from its imprisonment, so "now" was the best time to beat it. The dark templar almost won, too.
It does fit with the theme of the voice using lies mixed with truth.
Aye, the tentacles. But I always thought that it was made of energy, or at least had regeneration ability, since it's a cosmic entity. I mean, the planet blew up, and the voice was still there anyway. Maybe the voice just flew up to another dimension to escape the blast?
01-12-2010, 09:07 PM
#20
To the naysayers, I admit popping a godlike entity on the starcraft universe is a little off, but if anyone can manage it wouldn't it be Blizzard? Besides, how can they possibly justify just leaving a huge loose end like this with no real explanation, it lines up to perfectly as the antithesis of the Xel'naga to not be explored.
I'm pretty sure it's been explicitly stated that the Voice can only be harmed by energy weapons, particularity those that are void based, fight fire with fire.Aye, the tentacles. But I always thought that it was made of energy, or at least had regeneration ability, since it's a cosmic entity. I mean, the planet blew up, and the voice was still there anyway. Maybe the voice just flew up to another dimension to escape the blast?
Given it's particular skill set I think The Voice would be a kind of deception specialist, you couldn't really trust anyone when dealing with it, and that includes yourself.I think the voice tricked them. Morrigan said that the crystal was the lock to his prison, but then Xy'tal, after he was corrupted, said the exact opposite, that the crystal is the key (almost as if the voice put the wrong information into his head). It looks like the voice tricked them into destroying the crystal: "if you destroy it, the psi energy will kill us both"
It does with the theme of the voice using lies mixed with truth.
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