Has anyone watched Avatar yet? Spoilerz

[Quirel]

I meant as the main point of the movie. Its all about white guilt. Everything else is backseat to seeing the white man overcome his evil.

Yeah, I definitely didn't see that. Of course, Jake Sully DID have to overcome the evil he'd perpetuated by enslaving all those blacks and injuns back on Earth, rather than being a bystander who came late to the fight and had to make a choice as to which side he wanted to join.

Do I need sarcasm tags here?

Its not about HIS white guilt. Its WHITE PEOPLES GUILT. As in the VIEWERS. As in YOU.

So, if we're white, we should like this because it overcomes some sort of racial guilt we should feel for the oppression of the masses?

[DemolitionSquid]

Yeah, I definitely didn't see that. Of course, Jake Sully DID have to overcome the evil he'd perpetuated by enslaving all those blacks and injuns back on Earth, rather than being a bystander who came late to the fight and had to make a choice as to which side he wanted to join.

Do I need sarcasm tags here?

You missed the part where its not about Jake's evil, its about WHITE MAN'S EVIL.

So, if we're white, we should like this because it overcomes some sort of racial guilt we should feel for the oppression of the masses?

That's the intention, yes.

[The_Blade]

I believe it works for anyone who saw the movie and say, "hell, we would do that..." not just white people. The Aztecs did, the colonist english did, nazis did, china did, muslims/indu conflict did, the Allies did, portugal did, ruanda did, LasFark did, middle east did, basically everyone has done something like this. A little example is building your house in the forest, you are not killing blue tall guys but you do kill wildlife.

[arsedestroyer]

Avatar is intended to be a trilogy.

I weep.

I want avatar to be a trilogy. On an unrelated note, Battle Angel Alita. Now.



btw the movie was a bit like Fern Gully to me.

[Eligor]

Its not about HIS white guilt. Its WHITE PEOPLES GUILT. As in the VIEWERS. As in YOU.

I think that's a pretty simplistic and dismissive way to look at the movie.

There's less of a political aspect and more to the fact that we as human beings don't respect or appreciate the world as much as we should. I think it's more important that the Colonel in the movie has no regard for trees rather than him being a representative of a specific culture. Governments and corporations have no use for beauty, or truth; and all things that make life worthwhile are often the most fragile, and cannot stand up to greed or the artificial ideologies mankind produces. "Avatar" is very much a "movie against callousness" (if I may be forgiven for using poetic terms), and is a more important kind of story than many are bothered to realize.

[n00bonicPlague]

I think I agree with what Eligor said — that the movie seemed to focus around the overall idea of open-mindedness/understanding vs close-mindedness/ignorance. I do think that they could've came up with a better name for the rock than "unobtanium". That in itself had to be the cheesiest part of the entire movie.

[screw_ball69]

I personally thought the name of the rock was hilarious like they were poking fun at themselves for being such a generic movie.

[The_Blade]

The movie points out the fact that we would kill for greed no matter what in our current global/capitalist culture. We currently kill little human fetus in order to gain mother cells used for the selfishness of some humans who want to live more dispite the fact that nature has regected them in some way. Wether its alive or has a soul, doctors and people with some benefit out of this programs don't care and eventually give up the idea and meaning of life itself (which is way too stupid because we don't even know why something is alive).

[l33telboi]

I personally thought the name of the rock was hilarious like they were poking fun at themselves for being such a generic movie.

One of the sad things about movies like Avatar is that there's actually a great deal of thought put into everything. But we don't see it in the movie.

Take the spaceship as an example of this. It was described in meticulous detail in fringe material, everything from the cost to transport a single kilogram of matter, to how the ship is powered and how it travels is described, but in the movie all we see is a single few second glimpse of the ship. That it’s powered by lasers shot from Earth? Said nowhere. That it uses anti-matter thrusters to slow down? Said nowhere. That it normally runs on fusion power? Said nowhere. That it costs two million dollars to transport a single kilogram of matter from Earth to Pandora? Said nowhere.

It's the same with Unobtanium, it too is described in detail, and one of these details is where the name comes from. Basically, it's a room temperature superconductor that remains stable even in temperatures in the several hundred degrees Celsius range - it's the holy grail of modern science. People started calling it Unobtanium because they after trying to create it for a long time started thinking it could never be invented and that it simply can't exist. But then they found it. And the name Unobtanium stuck.

Cameron put a godly amount of thought behind the technical aspects of the movie.

[Norfindel]

Avatar is intended to be a trilogy.

I weep.

Are you serious?