12-28-2009, 08:52 PM
#21
12-28-2009, 09:17 PM
#22
I second screwball's comment. It was always at the tip of my eye and never stayed in one frame for too long.
12-28-2009, 09:38 PM
#23
Yes it did, but I fail to find why they look like humans when they live 5 light years away from earth and most of the organisms in there are hexopods. Same with the hip moves during the love scene. They where not even needed as it looks they just had a formal relationship through the "bond". I belive it all just has to do with the magic of us adding our culture into everything. Else you will hate the movie as you might fail to find anything related to your own life like Squid.
Last edited by The_Blade; 12-28-2009 at 09:41 PM.
12-28-2009, 09:42 PM
#24
12-29-2009, 03:08 AM
#25
Considering it had to do more with a belief in military might than a desire to colonise Pandora (they didn't try to sell glass beads to the natives, addle them with drugs or proselytize to them) Fascism seemed the better term.
What I meant is that in Europe Fascism was usually tied to some exalted nationalistic ideology and rigid governmental system, while in the US it always had more to do with a sort of port and cigar machismo, less ideology more attitude (basically what is portrayed in the movie).
12-30-2009, 04:48 PM
#26
It would be quite the feat for me to list every movie, book and video game that this movie ripped off. First and foremost it was an almost direct steal from "Manta's Gift" by Timothy Zahn (guy who can't use his legs gets a chance at a new life by being born as an alien...hmmm...sound familiar?)
So take Manta's Gift, Furn Gully, Dances with Wolves, Borderlands (Pandora? The blue swirling effect when he connects to his Avatar? The giant mining machine seen at the beginning?) mash them all together and you have Avatar.
If you don't see it in 3D it's a giant waste of time and money. In 3D, however, there's some worth. I found myself entertained but not blown away.
12-30-2009, 05:13 PM
#27
whoa, never made the Fern Gully connection till you just said that.
12-30-2009, 06:25 PM
#28
Apart from the vegetation, another thing I loved about the visuals were the vehicle designs - that they are all so present day or near future styled.
Which reminds me...
Try a google image search for "Bagger 288"
As for "ripoffs" - I haven't seen a single movie in the last 10 years where one couldn't say "it's a ripoff of: <insert lesser known story here>"
Starcraft universe fan: Singleplayer and novels
12-30-2009, 09:10 PM
#29
There hasn't been a single story since the Greco-Roman days that has been original, but that's not really the point. Every story is a ripoff of some other story; the skill and greatness of the story is how well you disguise it, or blend it with something else.
Avatar did the blending alright, by blending it with even less-disguised theft. It's all part of movies and storytelling, to be sure, but at least have the decency to disguise it a little better. Cameron has no decency to speak of.
I was entertained by the movie and would like to see it again, I will repeat, but it is not a great movie in my opinion.
12-30-2009, 10:57 PM
#30
They actually tried to work on a diplomatic solution for a short time. This little guy who was supposed to be in charge of the operation called that they offered schools, roads and other stuff but that they liked mud; and the doctor did had a conection with them all, teaching them English. Fascism works under the believe of cultural or race supremacy, WITHOUT the interaction of any attempt a diplomatic solution.