SC units at scale (warning: BIG image)

[Pandonetho]

The guy back there is not that close to the Viking:

Exactly what are your little lines supposed to show?

[spychi]

It's not even close.

yeah, I actually thought that this artwork

is Blizzard official

[Norfindel]

The omegalisk is probably a better measure of the ultralisk's height. The ultralisk shares the same model of the omegalisk, merely besides the fact that the tentacles are just plain spikes on the ultra. And that concept was design to replace the ultralisk in multiplayer, so I would definitely assume the two to be at near equal size.

Good idea, thanks!!

I measured the Omegalisk by comparison with the front Marine to 11m, to it's tallest point. The tallest point is a little further away, so it's probably a little taller. If i use the gray guy flying back there, it's aprox. 15.8m, so it probably measures something between the two measurements, say, 13.5m ?

[AegisKHAOS]

The guy back there is not that close to the Viking:

Those are terrible references to use, especially when the angle really skews the perspective enough to make your vanishing point moot, and that you have a more obvious scale to use as reference, aka. the man standing next to the Viking's gatling. The line you used to measure the platform on one side towards where the man is standing, they're not the same distance at all. Clearly one is, in fact, closer to the Viking than the other. Even if the man were 'not as close' to the Viking, it's still closer to the Viking than anything else you've used; the very perspective of the man has him standing on front of the mech, slightly off to the right. No way he's the same distance as Raynor. When you use THAT man as the measure of height, there's absolutely NO WAY the Viking is a mere 4 to 5 metres in height.

As mentioned, it should at about eight metres based on that point of reference. Of course, for those who have read the Frontline mangas, the Vikings have apparently been depicted as even larger than the 8 metres mentioned, which also would make more sense than the 4.8 metres shown in that diagram.

[Norfindel]

Those are terrible references to use, especially when the angle really skews the perspective enough to make your vanishing point moot, and that you have a more obvious scale to use as reference, aka. the man standing next to the Viking's gatling. The line you used to measure the platform on one side towards where the man is standing, they're not the same distance at all. Clearly one is, in fact, closer to the Viking than the other. Even if the man were 'not as close' to the Viking, it's still closer to the Viking than anything else you've used; the very perspective of the man has him standing on front of the mech, slightly off to the right. No way he's the same distance as Raynor. When you use THAT man as the measure of height, there's absolutely NO WAY the Viking is a mere 4 to 5 metres in height.

As mentioned, it should at about eight metres based on that point of reference. Of course, for those who have read the Frontline mangas, the Vikings have apparently been depicted as even larger than the 8 metres mentioned, which also would make more sense than the 4.8 metres shown in that diagram.

That isn't done with vanishing point, they're just lines drawn to show where everyone is standing. The image drawn with vanishing point is shown in another thread: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....2&postcount=23
Wankey used the guy back there directly, and still isn't larger than 6.5m: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....8&postcount=20

Anyways, it's been compared with another method, and the results are similar: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....0&postcount=20 , and they are similar to the artwork with the DT and the Viking.

As i see it, it's a fairly small manned vehicle like the Goliath it replaces, superior to a Marine in powered armor, but not as big as a modern fighter.

Until i see some objective data, i'll going to thrust that results, as they're reasonably similar.

[mr. peasant]

Rather than basing on 'controversial' vanishing points or relative heights as seen in art which may have a certain degree of artistic license injected into them, let's all take a step back and look at the Viking's actual design:



As can be seen, the head alon makes up the entirety of the cockpit where the pilot will be seated. If you assume the height of the cockpit is at least 1.2 meters (4 feet), logic would dictate that the Viking would be at least greater than the 4 to 5 meter height previously suggested.

[Norfindel]

Rather than basing on 'controversial' vanishing points or relative heights as seen in art which may have a certain degree of artistic license injected into them, let's all take a step back and look at the Viking's actual design:



As can be seen, the head alon makes up the entirety of the cockpit where the pilot will be seated. If you assume the height of the cockpit is at least 1.2 meters (4 feet), logic would dictate that the Viking would be at least greater than the 4 to 5 meter height previously suggested.

Yes, using that picture, 7.5m tall is reasonable. But at this point, the unit is very different from that drawing, which seems to be used for the Frontline manga, according to the sc wiki.

[mr. peasant]

Yes, using that picture, 7.5m tall is reasonable. But at this point, the unit is very different from that drawing, which seems to be used for the Frontline manga, according to the sc wiki.

Perhaps but its scale should more or less be somewhat similar. Otherwise, it would be a completely different unit. More evidence can be seen in that it is a direct successor to the Wyrm, which would again suggest they are similar in size.

[AegisKHAOS]

That isn't done with vanishing point, they're just lines drawn to show where everyone is standing. The image drawn with vanishing point is shown in another thread: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....2&postcount=23
Wankey used the guy back there directly, and still isn't larger than 6.5m: [url]http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30788&postcount=20[/url

Was also editing the post and rewrote a bunch of stuff late at night, so that blob of text is actually a big mess. :P Either way, you can't say the man and Raynor are the same distance to the Viking, and I still don't see how said machine can even be as small as you say beyond that one concept art with the DT (and we all know full well, perspective aside, that they're merely just concept arts to begin with).

Anyways, it's been compared with another method, and the results are similar: http://sclegacy.com/forums/showpost....0&postcount=20

Actually, by your own post, I'm reading that as being 12 metres in height, more than Wankey's 6.5 metres (to which I will agree that the man isn't standing as close as others think; the man should appear even smaller if he were to stand next to it). I'm thinking more like eight to ten metres myself, though either way, they're not similar at all.

[Norfindel]

Perhaps but its scale should more or less be somewhat similar. Otherwise, it would be a completely different unit. More evidence can be seen in that it is a direct successor to the Wyrm, which would again suggest they are similar in size.

I see two possibilities: the Viking has similar size than the Wyrm, and the model on Hyperion's bay is bad; or they changed the unit's size at some point.

You know what? For the time being, and as the concept art is from the Wyrm anyways, i will just set it at 7.5m tall, and assume it's a Wyrm.

Was also editing the post and rewrote a bunch of stuff late at night, so that blob of text is actually a big mess. :P Either way, you can't say the man and Raynor are the same distance to the Viking, and I still don't see how said machine can even be as small as you say beyond that one concept art with the DT (and we all know full well, perspective aside, that they're merely just concept arts to begin with).

I'm not interested anymore into discussing if the guy is at a similar distance or not, because it just doesn't matters. If you can see half a human thru that vertical cockpit, there's no way that thing has more than 5.5m.

Actually, by your own post, I'm reading that as being 12 metres in height, more than Wankey's 6.5 metres (to which I will agree that the man isn't standing as close as others think; the man should appear even smaller if he were to stand next to it). I'm thinking more like eight to ten metres myself, though either way, they're not similar at all.

The pilot won't be in standing position back of that glass. We were assuming that you can see half of the pilot, at most.


Anyways, at this point, i added a question about the "real-world" unit sizes in battle.net. If they answer that, we're going to get the exact measurements, and there would be no problem with subjetivities.