SC units at scale (warning: BIG image)

[Quirel]

Now for MY take on the scales...
First of all, I would say that the Siege Tank would be closer to (but not quite) 4 meters tall, judging from this pic. http://www.starcraft2.com/art.xml?s=2
Note that the barrel is almost twice as tall as the Marine, even though the whole Tank is behind the guy.

Next, I refuse to believe that the Thor is ONLY 15.5 meters tall. Please note that the BORE of the shoulder cannons is a quarter of a meter in diameter. I'd say that 20 meters tall would be a good estimate.

Everyone else has pointed out how big the Viking is, so since when has the Queen been smaller than the Dragoon?

By the way, the reason the Zeratul/Hydralisk comparison is flawed is because Zeratul hunches... a lot. Think of Trolls in WoW. They're the second tallest race, after Tauren, but you'd never know it in-game.

The Hydras in that cinematic appear to be bigger than they are.

Lol. Thankfully this is pretty far from any Earth we happen to live on, or my height would be a lot less of a commodity than it is now. :P

Commodity? That's not the right word, is it?

[Perfecttear]

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You can see looking at this picture that the Viking is atleast 6 to 8 times larger than a normal human, ( objects are at different distances to each other in that picture!)
The viking is actually 50 m behind Raynor, so i don't know where you got only 4.8m ? Just look at the man behind Raynor, he is still quite few meters infront of the Viking, but is alredy atleast 4 times smaler than the viking.

I would personaly gues about 14-18 m for the Vikings size.


And as for the Thor, that can't be right. How could you put the Ultralisk before the Thor. I remember those pictures from blizzard where it showed humans standing on the thor, and they were realy really small. I would put the Thor size 45 - 60 m and not 15 ( It's not a viking )

And the Colussus is no way only 40 m. I would put it more at 150 - 200 m. It's being described in the lore as being the size of a Skyscraper !

[AegisKHAOS]

Why wouldn't the Ultralisk be bigger than a Thor, though? I envision the Ultras to be the more massive of the two units, so I'm perfectly fine with THAT order. Not as sold on the Thor being a 'mere' 15.5m despite what the artwork implies. I'm also thinking closer to 20 metres myself. And there's no way the Colossus is over 100 metres tall, especially when compared to reavers and dragoons.

Of course, I'd take concept art and their scale with a grain of salt. I've seen Samwise Didier's siege tank which made THAT a 6 metre tall machine, and his omegalisk comes across at a 'mere' 15 metres.

[Norfindel]

I would change whatever has objective data, or if subjetively reasonable. If you know pictures that show more than one unit, please, link to them.

By the way, the reason the Zeratul/Hydralisk comparison is flawed is because Zeratul hunches... a lot. Think of Trolls in WoW. They're the second tallest race, after Tauren, but you'd never know it in-game.

The Hydras in that cinematic appear to be bigger than they are.

I will re-check it. I seen the cinematic closely, and that was the impression it gave to me.

10/10 for the effort. However the proportions on several units are clearly off. The hydralisk while easily over 4m from head to tail, would only stand about 2.5-3 m erect...roughly the size of a protoss.

But why do you say that? Did you seen Hydras next to other units somewhere?

The factory scene featuring the viking is simply a case of bad depth perception and wrong frame of reference (Raynor). If you look at the man in the background directly next to it, you get a better sense of scale. I'd say the viking would have more or less the same dimensions as a modern day fighter jet (15-16 m =/-). If you want a better Idea how big it would be in walker mode, look at 'Frontline vol. 1'. Or better yet; Starscream from Transformers the movie.

For the time being, i will use the image i posted in page 1, with the Dark Templar as reference, it should be 4.8m tall. My first impression was that it should be as large as a modern jet, but it seems like it´s a lot smaller, and close to what the Goliath was. Did you see Goliath pictures from SC:Ghost? It´s really small.

Now for MY take on the scales...
First of all, I would say that the Siege Tank would be closer to (but not quite) 4 meters tall, judging from this pic. http://www.starcraft2.com/art.xml?s=2
Note that the barrel is almost twice as tall as the Marine, even though the whole Tank is behind the guy.

I will re-check the image, but i loaded it in Photoshop and set the size to match 2cm for the Marine, then measured the Tank´s height. It doesn´t seems to be too far away. If it´s taller, it won´t be a lot taller. It´s taller than a M1 Abrams, anyways.

Next, I refuse to believe that the Thor is ONLY 15.5 meters tall. Please note that the BORE of the shoulder cannons is a quarter of a meter in diameter. I'd say that 20 meters tall would be a good estimate.

Everyone else has pointed out how big the Viking is, so since when has the Queen been smaller than the Dragoon?

The Queen size is taken from the Artwork it´s on stasis with a Protoss guard close to her. The Dragoon would look more or less the same size than the Queen, 4.6m was too much, i will set it to 4.2m. The back legs are the only thing protruding to a further height. The Dragoon´s height is calculated around it´s weapon. In The Ambush, the blue balls of energy have at least 1.2m diameter.

I also didn´t took into account the Queen´s wings, not the cannons on top of the Thor, but you can include them if you look at the lines. That adds some height to most units. Probably i should had included the Thor´s cannons, but the Queen´s wings probably won´t add to her perceived height.

You can see looking at this picture that the Viking is atleast 6 to 8 times larger than a normal human, ( objects are at different distances to each other in that picture!)
The viking is actually 50 m behind Raynor, so i don't know where you got only 4.8m ? Just look at the man behind Raynor, he is still quite few meters infront of the Viking, but is alredy atleast 4 times smaler than the viking.

50m from Raynor is too much, look at the floor, and the point where their feets touch the ground. It´s closer to Raynor than the other guy. Anyways, i will take a height of 4.8m (a meter taller) from the picture of the Viking and the DT.

And as for the Thor, that can't be right. How could you put the Ultralisk before the Thor. I remember those pictures from blizzard where it showed humans standing on the thor, and they were realy really small. I would put the Thor size 45 - 60 m and not 15 ( It's not a viking )

It´s that same picture. I just enlarged it until the Marine had the same size than the other. I will re-check it, however, when i get to my house again.

And the Colussus is no way only 40 m. I would put it more at 150 - 200 m. It's being described in the lore as being the size of a Skyscraper !

I took the size from the artwork where it´s shown along Dragoons and Reavers, but i will check the lore, and modify accordingly. Do you have a link?

[QUOTE=AegisKHAOS;43210]Not as sold on the Thor being a 'mere' 15.5m despite what the artwork implies. I'm also thinking closer to 20 metres myself. And there's no way the Colossus is over 100 metres tall, especially when compared to reavers and dragoons.
Yeah, i didn´t include the shoulder cannons in the 15.5m, but it reaches 18m with them.

Of course, I'd take concept art and their scale with a grain of salt. I've seen Samwise Didier's siege tank which made THAT a 6 metre tall machine, and his omegalisk comes across at a 'mere' 15 metres.

Yes, it´s only a guesstimation.

[Pandonetho]

50m from Raynor is too much, look at the floor, and the point where their feets touch the ground. It´s closer to Raynor than the other guy. Anyways, i will take a height of 4.8m (a meter taller) from the picture of the Viking and the DT.

Are you blind? It is nowhere near closer to Raynor than it is the other guy. They're both standing at the same height level, the other guy is standing BESIDE it.

You can even make comparisons with the cockpit. Someone would sit inside the cockpit and that would halve their height, it's still tall if you make some measurements.

Does Raynor honestly look like he fits in that little box back there to you with the comparison you're using? (Raynor at this distance to the Viking back there, and you think it's like they're standing beside each other)? There's no way a Viking is only 4.8 meter, and concept art is just that, concept art, it is NOTHING to be taken seriously.

[Quirel]

Not as sold on the Thor being a 'mere' 15.5m despite what the artwork implies. I'm also thinking closer to 20 metres myself. And there's no way the Colossus is over 100 metres tall, especially when compared to reavers and dragoons

Yeah, i didn´t include the shoulder cannons in the 15.5m, but it reaches 18m with them.

Yeah, because that Thor is OBVIOUSLY the one in the game.
TBH, I've always considered that "Thor" and the one in-game to be completely different.

[phazonjunkie]

For the time being, i will use the image i posted in page 1, with the Dark Templar as reference, it should be 4.8m tall. My first impression was that it should be as large as a modern jet, but it seems like it´s a lot smaller, and close to what the Goliath was. Did you see Goliath pictures from SC:Ghost? It´s really small.

That is NOT official blizzard concept art. It is (mediocre) fan art piece that was put up on blizzard's fan art gallery. The artist clearly had his proportions off, and likely made the mistake of of using in game unit models as a frame of reference.

Again I say, read Frontline vol. 1. there is an entire chapter dealing with the viking. You'll see that it is rather large, and, lorewise, quite powerful. (singlehandedly destroying an entire dominion base during an unveiling)

[spychi]

You can see looking at this picture that the Viking is atleast 6 to 8 times larger than a normal human, ( objects are at different distances to each other in that picture!)!

i doubt that 15m is reasonable, it's nowhere that far from him

[Hav0x]

Where did you get the scale for the ultra from? There is no way the Thor is that small compared to an ultralisk.

[Norfindel]

Are you blind? It is nowhere near closer to Raynor than it is the other guy. They're both standing at the same height level, the other guy is standing BESIDE it.

You can even make comparisons with the cockpit. Someone would sit inside the cockpit and that would halve their height, it's still tall if you make some measurements.

Does Raynor honestly look like he fits in that little box back there to you with the comparison you're using? (Raynor at this distance to the Viking back there, and you think it's like they're standing beside each other)? There's no way a Viking is only 4.8 meter, and concept art is just that, concept art, it is NOTHING to be taken seriously.

Ok, the guy back there is at the same distance, or slightly closer. Still, if we say that the cockpit has half of Raynor's height, 1.75m / 2 = 0.875m. The height is less than 6 times that, which is 5.25m, including that stuff over the Viking's cockpit, and the pic where it's seen with a DT for comparison can be measured to 4.8m, assuming the DT's height is 3m. I see no reason to take the height of the Viking as anything larger than around 5m.
Ridiculous, considering it transforms, and should be very complex? Probably, but that's how it's drawed.

For the records, i never used Raynor's size unmodified to make the comparison, i just projected Raynor's image with vanishing point.

That is NOT official blizzard concept art. It is (mediocre) fan art piece that was put up on blizzard's fan art gallery. The artist clearly had his proportions off, and likely made the mistake of of using in game unit models as a frame of reference.

Again I say, read Frontline vol. 1. there is an entire chapter dealing with the viking. You'll see that it is rather large, and, lorewise, quite powerful. (singlehandedly destroying an entire dominion base during an unveiling)

I meant this, it's in-game:



I cannot read frontline, it's not sold here. Would you like to upload a picture where it does stand very close to another unit?

Where did you get the scale for the ultra from? There is no way the Thor is that small compared to an ultralisk.

The scale is from a Mr. Jack picture, with a Protoss there for comparison. Probably he exaggerated, but i had no other source to compare.

Here it's, the Protoss was taken as 3m long. The grey bar is slightly longer, because the Toss is standing lower than normally:




Here's how the height of the Thor can be measured:



That's at most 18m tall (the armored Terran taken at 2m tall).

Still, i think that the Ultralisk size is emphasized a lot by the fact it's a freaking massive beast. The Colossus doesn't looks menacing next to it.

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