Game of Thrones' writing is so bad now...

[sandwich_bird]

That last season so far is the worst writing this show has ever had. Not SC2 bad butttt pretty bad. I'd say anyone here could write a better script

[Visions of Khas]

Bridge4 supplies an interesting analysis on the most recent episode.

[sandwich_bird]

Yeah the foreshadowing is nice, intentional or not, and I don't have a problem with Arya doing it. The dagger concept is also interesting. I do otherwise have a problem with pretty much everything else about that episode The ridiculous plot armors, deus ex machina, brainless military strategies/actions, rule of cool overdose, etc.. it just wasn't well written. I do hope the writers have something else more thoughtful up their sleeves.

[Mislagnissa]

The showrunners have always been terrible. All the good writing came from Martin. The show started falling apart as early as season five when they turned Dorne into Porne.

And let's be honest: the only reason this show was so successful is because of the softcore porn. I got sick of it pretty fast.

[Nissa]

I don't actually watch the show, but this guy called MauLer on youtube did a breakdown of why that battle episode was bad. Even for an outsider, it had a lot of interesting points.

[sandwich_bird]

I don't actually watch the show, but this guy called MauLer on youtube did a breakdown of why that battle episode was bad. Even for an outsider, it had a lot of interesting points.

Well that video was pretty accurate. That one too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfc8fL-swxQ

And that final was as bad you'd expect it. Man, after I watched the first season 8 years ago, I was so hooked that I bought all the books and read them the following week. Sad that it ended like this.

[Mislagnissa]

Well that video was pretty accurate. That one too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfc8fL-swxQ

And that final was as bad you'd expect it. Man, after I watched the first season 8 years ago, I was so hooked that I bought all the books and read them the following week. Sad that it ended like this.

There's always the fanfiction.

[sandwich_bird]

Yeah I guess. And the last 2 books.

[Turalyon]

I'm surprised that there isn't any more ranting going on here!

The writing was "bad" ever since there were no books left to adapt. All the show writers had left were the plot points left by Martin to go by, so all they could do was write to advance the plot. Everything (like events, deaths and even including character actions and their thoughts/feelings) just happens because the plot demands it. It stopped feeling organic and natural like it did in the beginning. When a plot point could just happen at the drop of a hat, the thing feels rushed... even when it's buried in an extended episode. Instead, it seems bloated and unnecessary because it doesn't really support the suddenness of the plot points occurrence.

Also, this article has an interesting take on why the later seasons feel off. Basically, it says that most of the appeal and heft of GoT came from some larger sociological context and weight that was bigger than any one character but which the characters played in and how this got lost as it went along to just writing about the characters own individual psychology having sway over everything else.

[sandwich_bird]

I'm surprised that there isn't any more ranting going on here!

Huh ,if you guys are interested, I have a list of things I didn't like about the main plot points of S8 and a potential rewrite of those plot points almost done. I think everything has been said on the internet about the smaller details.

Also, this article has an interesting take on why the later seasons feel off. Basically, it says that most of the appeal and heft of GoT came from some larger sociological context and weight that was bigger than any one character but which the characters played in and how this got lost as it went along to just writing about the characters own individual psychology having sway over everything else.

They talk about sociological story vs psychological story but what they really mean, based on their examples, is that the later seasons are full of author fiat. It is true though that later seasons are more character centered than context centered but I'd argue that this wouldn't be a problem in itself if the story moved organically.