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    Ravens aren't spell casters. They don't make magic things appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandonetho View Post
    Ravens aren't spell casters. They don't make magic things appear.
    And Ghosts do?
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    And Ghosts do?
    Ghosts can cloak, that requires psionic energy.

    Anyway, I should have been more clear, the psionic tag can easily be applied to all ground "spell casters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandonetho View Post
    Ghosts can cloak, that requires psionic energy.

    Anyway, I should have been more clear, the psionic tag can easily be applied to all ground "spell casters."
    I'm not against a tag that is applied to some spellcasters (to be clear: it's common to call spellcaster anything that has special abilities, it's shorter ), but calling it Psionic is a bit of a misnomer. According to sc2armory, the psionic units are the ones with an asterisk in the following list:


    Auto-Turret
    Banshee
    Battlecruiser
    * Ghost
    Hellion
    Marauder
    Marine
    Medivac
    Mule
    Point Defense Drone
    Raven
    Reaper
    SCV
    Siege Tank
    Thor
    Viking



    * Archon
    Carrier
    Colossus
    * Dark Templar
    * Disruptor
    * High Templar
    Immortal
    Interceptors
    * Mothership
    Observer
    Phoenix
    Probe
    Stalker
    Void Ray
    * Warp Prism
    Zealot



    Baneling
    Brood Lord
    Broodling
    * Changeling
    Corruptor
    Drone
    Hydralisk
    Infested Terran
    * Infestor
    Larva
    Lurker
    Mutalisk
    Nydus Worm
    Overlord
    Overseer
    * Queen
    Roach
    Ultralisk
    Zergling

    What criteria did they use to tag the units? If the Warp Prism and the Dark Templar are marked, why not other Protoss units? Some of them aren't even spellcasters at all. Why the Dark Templar but not the Stalker? Or the Phoenix? Very strange.

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    Ghosts can cloak, that requires psionic energy.
    No it doesn't. Unless Banshees and Wraiths should also be "psionic".

    I should have been more clear, the psionic tag can easily be applied to all ground "spell casters."
    What's so Psionic about an Infestor? It throws bugs and things at the enemy that physically take them over. Which is why it works with pure machines like the Colossus. There's nothing Psionic about them.
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    No it doesn't. Unless Banshees and Wraiths should also be "psionic".
    A ghost cloaking device is different, why do you think you need to research them separately? Second of all, yes it does, because lore says it does.

    What's so Psionic about an Infestor? It throws bugs and things at the enemy that physically take them over. Which is why it works with pure machines like the Colossus. There's nothing Psionic about them.
    It's moreover just a name than any actual meaning. It just seems convenient to me to call all spell casters psionic, what would you rather call them?
    After all, we don't know if Infestors have any psionic capabilities or not. They're a new game unit we know nothing about.

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    why do you think you need to research them separately?
    Gameplay.
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    "You simply cannot design a mechanic today to mimic the behaviour of a 10-year old mechanic that you removed because nearly nobody would like them today." - Norfindel, on the Macro Mechanics

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    Gameplay.
    Yeah, let's just ignore the part where lore also comes in to say you're wrong anyway.

    And yep, we're going to just rip out a cloaking generator on a wraith, and make it a backpack for the Ghost, yep that's what happened isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandonetho View Post
    Yeah, let's just ignore the part where lore also comes in to say you're wrong anyway.

    And yep, we're going to just rip out a cloaking generator on a wraith, and make it a backpack for the Ghost, yep that's what happened isn't it?
    Look, if Blizzard want to say that a big-ass engine is needed to power the cloaking device, so if the Ghost is going to use it, it has to be smaller and half-powered by psionic abilities.... so be it.

    That still doesn't excuse the Infestor's inclusion, or the Zealot's lack thereof.
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    To find a good name, first you must know why you're using it. The problem, is that it seems to be no reason to tag something with "Psionic". Dark Templar is psionic, but not a Zealot, and the Warp Prism is psionic also... why? If they do that to keep the unit from being mind-controlled, the Dark Templar is immune, but not a Colossus, which would be far more dangerous? I don't see the relationship.

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