How hard is programming?

[EvilGenius]

Syntax alone isnt the only thing you need to learn. You have to know the whys, and hows in order to do what you want to do. There are a lot of fundamentals such as learning to plan out your program, as well as the development cycle. Many online tutorials omit certain basic things that you need to know, and often I ran into trouble completing a project a tutorial was meant to complete. However, in school they don't leave out vital reasoning and instructions on how to get something done, therefore I consider the school environment much better.

As someone who has had experience learning both ways, I can honestly tell you taking classes is by far superior. Hopefully one day people get better with tutorials, and start to plan out their tutorials in a similar fashion that they would plan out a program.

I've learned Python and VB.Net... I intend to learn java and advanced java as well before I finish my associates degree in computer programming.

I've learned VB.Net and C#, Java is pretty much the same thing as C# right?

[RainbowToeSocks]

I took programming in school (HTML, CSS, Java, C++, Action Script, etc etc etc) for two years... I was amazing at it... but all I truely took away from those courses is that I never want to do it ever again
LOL

I HATE IT
fucking codes
fucking "oh i missed a period somewhere"
fucking ahadrhdsfkdsafdsa

yeah

[Spartan]

Programming is really not that hard to pick up, in my opinion. I never took any classes, bought any books, nor had anyone teach me individually. I was all self-taught from the age-old method of messing with a script and seeing what it does, and referring to glossaries online. Though it took me a few years to get to my skill level today, that is only because I worked at my own pace purely as a hobby. I now know fluently HMTL/CSS/JS/PHP/MySQL; mainly the web development languages.

If you're in it for the money, then you better pick up the pace. Yes, a lot of money can be made in the web industry, but as of recently the room for entering market is getting smaller as older companies grow bigger and expand their reach. Currently I make about a thousand dollars a month from my single StarCraft site alone, which is http://vilegaming.com

[sandwich_bird]

If you're in it for the money, then you better pick up the pace. Yes, a lot of money can be made in the web industry, but as of recently the room for entering market is getting smaller as older companies grow bigger and expand their reach. Currently I make about a thousand dollars a month from my single StarCraft site alone, which is http://vilegaming.com

Wow a thousand really? That's pretty nice. I can only imagine the profit you can make out of a website giving even more services. Tbh I kinda want to go in this direction for the money. Of course, like I said in my first post, I'm also interested in what I could do with the skills in my domain (science or more specifically biochemistry) but I want to learn web programming more for the money than anything else. I mean nowadays, what's the "easiest" and safest way to make money? I believe the answer lies on the internet.

[Santrega]

I've learned VB.Net and C#, Java is pretty much the same thing as C# right?

I believe java is equal to C or C++. C# is a little different... Also the fact that java is a cross platform language, its clearly the best.

It all has to do with the java compiler and interpreter (Java uses both so that it can work on any OS). Anyway, C# is a simpler version of C/C++, and in my opinion is closer to VB.NET than anything.

In my opinion, for a career in programming, java is probably the biggest language right now because of it being cross-platform. Maybe not the biggest yet, but at the very least the fastest growing, and there are a lot of job opportunities out there for a java programmer.

[Noise]

Java is far closer to C# than to C

[Santrega]

Java is far closer to C# than to C

Actually thats besides the point. Java is not really at all like any other language because it does things those languages cant. C# C C++ aren't cross-platform languages like Java is. The syntax of java is more like C++, but both C#/Java are based off of C++, and they work in some way a more similar fashion than Java and C++.

Still, I want to stress that Java is far different than the other languages, period. One is not like the other unless you are talking strictly syntax, and in my opinion, and in many articles, people will say Looking at java and C++ will show they are almost identical. Syntax is usually what someone means when they talk about the likeness of languages. Java is more like C++ than C# in syntax, because it more closely uses the C++ syntax.

[Noise]

Apart from portability, Java and C# share the most similarities: automatic garbage collection, true object oriented programming and type safety.

[Santrega]

Apart from portability, Java and C# share the most similarities: automatic garbage collection, true object oriented programming and type safety.

If he was talking about in terms of what they do, then fine. If he meant in terms of syntax, Java is closer to C++ then C#.

I was never arguing that they were more alike in any way other than syntax, as I assumed that's what he meant.

[EvilGenius]

If he was talking about in terms of what they do, then fine. If he meant in terms of syntax, Java is closer to C++ then C#.

I was never arguing that they were more alike in any way other than syntax, as I assumed that's what he meant.

I'm just wondering if I could easily transition from C# to Java - The reason i thought they were similar is that my Computer Science teacher modified a Java book to teach us C#.