Can a terran marine...

[Novasquadron]

Wow really?
Zigurd, that is a bold statement sir.
Perhaps you can elighten us about how you come to know this?

[pure.Wasted]

This thread brings up a valid point.

We actually still have no freaking idea how powerful Zerglings are in melee combat, and if a Marine could take one. The closest we've seen is the Ghost cinematic, and it doesn't really zoom in on any 1v1 fights well enough to tell.

Some cinematic at some point is going to need to show this, once and for all. Can a Marine wrestle a Ling to the ground, or is it 2 feet proximity = death for the man trapped inside the can?

[Alzarath]

As I've seen from observations of the Terran, why bother give the Marines armor in the first place? They have the same HP as civilians, so it can't possibly give more protection. I think the civ and rine move at the same speed, and aren't the Marines incredibly disposable? Imagine how much such armor might cost.

Of course, this is all speaking statistically.

[Pandonetho]

As I've seen from observations of the Terran, why bother give the Marines armor in the first place? They have the same HP as civilians, so it can't possibly give more protection. I think the civ and rine move at the same speed, and aren't the Marines incredibly disposable? Imagine how much such armor might cost.

Of course, this is all speaking statistically.

In game stats = utter complete fail. Never again.

[Lupino]

I recall that someone in a Marine suit punched an unarmored guy in Speed of Darkness, however instead of caving his head in all it did was knock the guy unconscious for a few hours. I'm hoping I'm remembering that wrong however, because they ought to be much more powerful.

give them a plasma bo.

space marine are awesome but they are kinda slow and heavy.

Ha, a 40k Space Marine could outrun an Olympic runner in a dead sprint. Each one is worth at least ten Terran Marines

[Kacaier]

Ha, a 40k Space Marine could outrun an Olympic runner in a dead sprint. Each one is worth at least ten Terran Marines

That sounds physically impossible, even being 8 feet tall, having super muscles and a power suit. The problem here is momentum. Despite the popular references of 'if ants were the size of humans, they could lift a car (20x their weight)' or whatever, it's untrue. If an ant was the size of a human, it would collapse on itself because at that size, those proportioned legs wouldn't hold, and the hard exoskeleton they sport only work at micro scales. The reason is that while proportion works fine with energy, mass on the otherhand is held back by atomic bonding and structures. Therefore, the momentum required to speed their body faster would be extreme strain on their human enhanced body.

And they can do all the genetic upgrades they want, unless they change a Space Marines' chemical composition to whatever the hell Tyranids are made of, running faster than a sprinter would tear their body apart.

[Pandonetho]

And they can do all the genetic upgrades they want, unless they change a Space Marines' chemical composition to whatever the hell Tyranids are made of, running faster than a sprinter would tear their body apart.

However, the excuse all fanboys use regarding WH40K is "god did it." Also, can't a powersuit enhance your running speed? It's not like you yourself is physically exerting more strength, it's all the hydraulics or whatever doing it right? Well regardless, I don't think Space Marine power suits do that anyway, they look like they're just pieces of armour attached the the SM.

I recall that someone in a Marine suit punched an unarmored guy in Speed of Darkness, however instead of caving his head in all it did was knock the guy unconscious for a few hours. I'm hoping I'm remembering that wrong however, because they ought to be much more powerful.

Perhaps that guy didn't want to kill whoever he punched?

[Shadow Archon]

This thread brings up a valid point.

We actually still have no freaking idea how powerful Zerglings are in melee combat, and if a Marine could take one. The closest we've seen is the Ghost cinematic, and it doesn't really zoom in on any 1v1 fights well enough to tell.

Some cinematic at some point is going to need to show this, once and for all. Can a Marine wrestle a Ling to the ground, or is it 2 feet proximity = death for the man trapped inside the can?

A Zergling in Frontline ripped a Marine pretty much in half.

[Pandonetho]

That's probably just an artistic style because Zerglings aren't even big enough to do that.

However, they probably have to be pretty damn strong if they can knock over a firebat (SC: Ghost trailer). When you think about it a firebat has probably got to be pretty heavy, 500 pounds maybe? More? Tychus alone is already 363 add another 200 pounds (or more I bet, to the suit) and you have one heavy guy. Zerglings don't seem very heavy (the FB chucked one away with his arm after toasting it) but yet they're seemingly heavy enough to knock him off balance even with the auto-balancing function of the CMC suits.

[Shadow Archon]

That's probably just an artistic style because Zerglings aren't even big enough to do that.

Maybe. Sizes have never stayed constant in Starcraft.

But it still happened.