Overmind's Vision

[Turalyon]

If the Overmind DID plan to betray Amon, then he must have known what Amon planned to do to him once the swarm fulfilled its purpose. This goes back to what I had said before LotV was even out, that the vision we saw in WoL was what Overmind felt would probably happen if the Protoss killed Kerrigan off without bothering to look at the prophecy.

Knowing something bad is probably going to happen as a consequence of betrayal is just plain inference/deduction, not precognition. Grad has implied that the vision potentially has some precognitive value (I've stated that it could also just be mere coincidence) because some lines are repeated almost verbatim.

Also, it is unknown whether the Overmind knows anything about this "prophecy" anyway. Even if it did, the how does it know and why of it forever eludes us. LotV potentially answers this plothole by inferring that the "Overmind's vision" was all due to Ouros. Afterall, Ouros is supposed to be an actual godlike being with godlike powers (like precognition), whose people (if not he himself) are responsible for the prophecy (a thing that predicates itself on precognition) in the first place.

In retrospect, Ouros (as "Tassadar") lies to Zeratul in a few instances in order to manipulate him into his end goal of saving and bringing in his preferred vessel for his essence transfer (Kerrigan) by pretending to be Tassadar, saying that Tassadar never died and claims to not know who enslaved the Overmind or why. With Ouros' nature as being deceitful confirmed, it's difficult to know what he says to Z in Echoes of the Future can be taken at face value at all. The Overmind vision he speaks of could just as easily be Ouros' "vision" - a concoction not steeped wholly in truth (hence the possibility of the vision being partially precognitive in some aspects) but ultimately, as a means to get what he wants.

[Visions of Khas]

As the story's evolved over the years, I ignored some comments and explanation by the writers between the installments, and rationalized it this way:

The Overmind operates as the central processing unit for the overarching Zerg network. It has countless millions of individual units, giving it unparalleled processing power. It is thus capable of integrating information and arriving at conclusions impossible for humans, or perhaps even protoss. Essentially, it's a massive computer with immense predictive capacity. It could simulate multiple timelines and deduce the most likely outcome.

Then at the end of LotV... Ourous did it. :| But, being from the Void, Ourous is outside our understanding of space and time, and this harkens back to Zeratul's own quote from The Fall: "You speak of knowledge, Judicator? You speak of experience? I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities... Unto my experience, Aldaris, all that you've built here on Aiur is but a fleeting dream." Zeratul's attunement to the Void gave him pseudo-prophetic power.

... but the epilogue itself doesn't really support that. :|

[ragnarok]

As the story's evolved over the years, I ignored some comments and explanation by the writers between the installments, and rationalized it this way:

The Overmind operates as the central processing unit for the overarching Zerg network. It has countless millions of individual units, giving it unparalleled processing power. It is thus capable of integrating information and arriving at conclusions impossible for humans, or perhaps even protoss. Essentially, it's a massive computer with immense predictive capacity. It could simulate multiple timelines and deduce the most likely outcome.

Then at the end of LotV... Ourous did it. :| But, being from the Void, Ourous is outside our understanding of space and time, and this harkens back to Zeratul's own quote from The Fall: "You speak of knowledge, Judicator? You speak of experience? I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities... Unto my experience, Aldaris, all that you've built here on Aiur is but a fleeting dream." Zeratul's attunement to the Void gave him pseudo-prophetic power.

... but the epilogue itself doesn't really support that. :|

Yeah but most people felt the epilogue was just something they threw together as fast as they could just for the sake to try to show the Xel'Naga, they should have redone it.

[Turalyon]

The Overmind operates as the central processing unit for the overarching Zerg network. It has countless millions of individual units, giving it unparalleled processing power. It is thus capable of integrating information and arriving at conclusions impossible for humans, or perhaps even protoss. Essentially, it's a massive computer with immense predictive capacity. It could simulate multiple timelines and deduce the most likely outcome.

Sounds like something the Geth could do, not the Overmind. Also, this has the implication of the Overmind being infallible. As Sc1 alone shows, it clearly was not.

Then at the end of LotV... Ourous did it. :| But, being from the Void, Ourous is outside our understanding of space and time, and this harkens back to Zeratul's own quote from The Fall: "You speak of knowledge, Judicator? You speak of experience? I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities... Unto my experience, Aldaris, all that you've built here on Aiur is but a fleeting dream." Zeratul's attunement to the Void gave him pseudo-prophetic power.

... but the epilogue itself doesn't really support that. :|

Well, it's actually more internally consistent/logical (for Sc2, that is) if it all originates from Ouros, because he's part of the "Xel'Naga are magical space gods" conceit that Sc2 introduces.

The quote from Zerry there doesn't really play into that. It's really just a poetic, but very affecting and effective, fluff to say he's seen/experienced stuff (much like Roy Batty's final monologue in Blade Runner) as well as a "You know nothing, Jon Snow!"-like burn against Aldaris.

[KaiserStratosTygo]

Ragnarok! Where have you been?

[TheEconomist]

I have Ragnarok blocked. I haven't ready any of his posts in a long, long time and I haven't read this one.

Yet I'd be willing to bet that the message has either a statement of what he thinks people really think about some aspect of StarCraft or some irrelevant, needless defense of Blizzard/StarCraft mixed with a half-hearted concession that it didn't live up to expectations but wasn't really all that bad ... or both

How close am I?

[KaiserStratosTygo]

I have Ragnarok blocked. I haven't ready any of his posts in a long, long time and I haven't read this one.

Yet I'd be willing to bet that the message has either a statement of what he thinks people really think about some aspect of StarCraft or some irrelevant, needless defense of Blizzard/StarCraft mixed with a half-hearted concession that it didn't live up to expectations but wasn't really all that bad ... or both

How close am I?

Do you even need to ask?

99.9% accurate.

[ragnarok]

Ragnarok! Where have you been?

I've had other things on my mind, so let's just say "elsewhere."

[Turalyon]

Ragnarok! Where have you been?

I've had other things on my mind, so let's just say "elsewhere."

Nah Rag, the correct response to the question is this: "Be silent, Kaiser. There is no time to waste, and I have much to tell you. As you know, the SC forums vanished after a time, and though my Ragginess bid me return, I was compelled to remain silent."

[Turalyon]

whoops, double post.