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Thread: Protoss Stalkers, Organic or Machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur View Post
    [Incoming made up lore explanation]

    Certain Protoss psionic powers are impeded by matter. Therefore zealots, stalkers, dark templar, high templar do not wear cranial protection to best channel thier abilities. Although the game does not portray it the stalker and indeed all protoss are capable of several psionic abilities including telepathy. The Immortals forgoe some psionic advantage inorder to have better protection as fitting for thier heavy assualt role.


    As Chris Metzen would say: "That was pretty good......... And almost completely pulled out of your ass."
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    Of course a counter argument would be the Immortal and Dragoon, but the Immortal can't shoot up. Balance purposes, yes, but lore now.
    Actually, in Frontline Volume 1 Immortals kill an overlord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n00bonicPlague View Post
    So I guess it's not so much that they can't have their heads outside as it is that there's nothing to accomplish by having the head outside and thus it's not even worth the risk when you've got a nice thickly armored shell to hide in. Sure, there may be virtually zero risk with shields and all protecting them, but why not go ahead and make that absolutely zero risk by putting the head inside? There's nothing worth gaining from having its head outside.
    I fully agree.
    I also think that the Protoss rely on Shields for defense, and that's why Zealot's armor is open, giving them more freedom of movement, but that doesn't means that an armored unit with a pilot, fused or not, has to have the pilot's head needlessly protruding from the armor, speacially because there is precedent of this kind of units having the pilot completely encased inside (Dragoon).

    This has one and only one reason: Blizzard liked to give the Dark Templar this creepy look. Hopefully, there are very little amounts of dark templar units, so we are safe from ships made with Zerg bones, or space surfers attacking with void-filled pig bladders

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur View Post
    [Incoming ....and goldfish maintenance systems.
    I totally forgot about that and as a result I just about died laughing.

    What if (and I mean what if) the stalker could pull a turtle and retract its head to protect it when under heavy fire.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norfindel View Post
    I fully agree.
    Blizzard liked to give the Dark Templar this creepy look. Hopefully, there are very little amounts of dark templar units, so we are safe from ships made with Zerg bones, or space surfers attacking with void-filled pig bladders
    hmm, the thought of a ship adorned with zerg remains might actually be kinda cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screw_ball69 View Post
    hmm, the thought of a ship adorned with zerg remains might actually be kinda cool.
    Wow! That's totally unexpected, i thinked you favourite would be the space surfers attacking with void-filled pig bladders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norfindel View Post
    Wow! That's totally unexpected, i thinked you favourite would be the space surfers attacking with void-filled pig bladders
    That's just silly, we all know the pig bladders would be sucked into the void and or possessed and become demons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacaier View Post
    The Colossus and Reaver both have their heads outside as well. Albeit they are both robotic, but I'm sure a "Boom, Headshot" would be as devastating to them as it would be to a Stalker. While both robotic heads are not biological or fleshy, I doubt it is armored either, considering it's sensitive monitoring equipment. A camera lens is not going to be as hard as armor. From that, we can deduce Protoss (Aiurian at that) technology still find a protruding sensory head is a more optimal solution than having what, a flat faced camera?

    Of course a counter argument would be the Immortal and Dragoon, but the Immortal can't shoot up. Balance purposes, yes, but lore now. No kidding considering they can only swivel left to right. The in-game model merely lifted its turrets. And I wouldn't quite call those two machines agile, anything like a blinking Stalker. The Dragoon is a siege vehicle, hence it also has to throw down stabilizers before shooting in the in-game sprite model. The Immortal has hardened shield.

    Those two arguments might be easily tossed aside. But one of my biggest argument for it is what had been stated by XSOLDIER. Protoss most likely rely on shields rather than armor (or agility like Zeratul). They have no medics, and Protoss aren't known to be a hardy armored race. I assume that to be more of the Terrans roll. That or the Zerg. Shields in lore definitely trump both neo-steel clad armor and enhanced Zerg carapaces.
    Why cant the head just be their for looks, like we attach statues and shit onto the front of our boats way back when.

    Why does everyone assume the head has to be functional for anything beyond a camera (with a backup camera somewhere else)...or maybe protoss don't even use cameras, they just uplink the machines khala crystal computer to their mind or some shit.

    And zealots have the psi-blades+excellent swordsmanship to protect their head.
    Last edited by newcomplex; 10-25-2009 at 12:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newcomplex View Post
    Why cant the head just be their for looks, like we attach statues and shit onto the front of our boats way back when.

    Why does everyone assume the head has to be functional for anything beyond a camera (with a backup camera somewhere else)...or maybe protoss don't even use cameras, they just uplink the machines khala crystal computer to their mind or some shit.
    Because every indication says its a real head. Heck we could hypothesize that the zealots head might be a "robo-head" and the real zealot head is hiding like a turtle like the Independence Day aliens.



    But we both know thats not how zealots or stalkers work. The stalker and zealot heads are clearly real. When protoss want to put a face on a machine it looks like this.

    Last edited by ArcherofAiur; 10-25-2009 at 09:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcherofAiur View Post
    But we both know thats not how zealots or stalkers work. The stalker and zealot heads are clearly real. When protoss want to put a face on a machine it looks like this.

    Likewise, we all know that when Protoss make mechanical units (e.g. Dragoons and Immortals), they don't design them with their heads sticking out. Ergo, that's not a real head on the Stalker.

    Seriously, your complaint is based entirely on your opinion that it has to be a real head and can't possibly be anything else and that such a design serves no purpose whatsoever. They're both assumptions. If Blizzard so much as says 'it's a mechanical head' or anything remotely to that effect, your argument is left with not so much as a leg to stand on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. peasant View Post
    Likewise, we all know that when Protoss make mechanical units (e.g. Dragoons and Immortals), they don't design them with their heads sticking out. Ergo, that's not a real head on the Stalker..
    Except they designed the Stalker with the head sticking out. Which brings us to your next point.


    Quote Originally Posted by mr. peasant View Post
    Seriously, your complaint is based entirely on your opinion that it has to be a real head and can't possibly be anything else and that such a design serves no purpose whatsoever. They're both assumptions. If Blizzard so much as says 'it's a mechanical head' or anything remotely to that effect, your argument is left with not so much as a leg to stand on.
    Its not that "I think its a head and there for its a head". Its "things are what they look like unless given a real good reason to suspect otherwise". The zealot head looks like a real head. The stalker head looks like a real head. The immortal "head" does not look like a real head. It looks like a robotic covering.
    Last edited by ArcherofAiur; 10-25-2009 at 10:12 AM.

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