Nova: Covert Ops [SPOILERS]

[Visions of Khas]

So, maybe I can change that. Is this kind of a return to SC1 roots now that the Amon trash is over? Is some of the old atmosphere back? If so, I'll probably take the plunge soon.

Mm, I'd say so. The slapstick and the Wild West are all gone. This is a good ol' fashion Terran-on-terran scenario. Yeah, we're retreading some old ground -- you'll definitely be taken back to Rebel Yell -- but overall I'm quite pleased with it. We have two multi-phase missions: the first goes from an installation escape to a high speed get away; and the third is a hold-out mission with some really neat gimmicks, and becomes an infiltration. You'll be able to customize Nova, as well. If you get all the available tech, you can change between classic stealth-assassin Ghost to urban warfare fighter.

Do I think it's worth the full price now? I'm not sure, there are a lot of high-quality maps on StarCraft II Mapster. That's what I expected and went ahead and broke my "No Pre-Order" rule, getting it for $15.

[Nolanstar]

So, I've been wrestling with extreme apathy and haven't even bothered to download it.

So, maybe I can change that. Is this kind of a return to SC1 roots now that the Amon trash is over? Is some of the old atmosphere back? If so, I'll probably take the plunge soon.

It is better then the previous 3 sc2 campaigns, It plays uniquely but the story feels like a "return to roots"

[drakolobo]

i will a exosuit for a ghost :guay:

[ragnarok]

Who cares if it came from Amon? He still did it to the Overmind, the Overmind was still the Zerg and since the Overmindis gone, any programming would have gone with it.

Also, this has nothing to do with you flip-flopping your opinion and making your position incomprehensible.

The whole point of the psionic attraction to terrans is because there might be those Kerrigan felt worthy to infest to make the proper 2nd in command for her (this is before she created the Broodmothers)

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It is better then the previous 3 sc2 campaigns, It plays uniquely but the story feels like a "return to roots"

It's still not as dark compared to SC1 though. A little bit darker than WoL, though this time we get to see the picture in reverse: we get to see the Dominion's POV on the terrorist group, rather than the DoM's view.

[Turalyon]

The whole point of the psionic attraction to terrans is because there might be those Kerrigan felt worthy to infest to make the proper 2nd in command for her (this is before she created the Broodmothers)

Oh, I see now. You're making some fanon up and deciding to believe it's true without any basis. Should've said so.

Even if this were true, we're talking about the Zerg still being attracted to psionics as of events after Sc2, where neither Kerrigan nor the Overmind are there to have such influence over the Zerg. Why the Zerg are still attracted by Psi Emitters when they have no underlying reason for still doing so, is stil left unanswered.

[ragnarok]

Oh, I see now. You're making some fanon up and deciding to believe it's true without any basis. Should've said so.

Even if this were true, we're talking about the Zerg still being attracted to psionics as of events after Sc2, where neither Kerrigan nor the Overmind are there to have such influence over the Zerg. Why the Zerg are still attracted by Psi Emitters when they have no underlying reason for still doing so, is stil left unanswered.

It's not made up in what you think. During the 4 years between BW and WoL, clearly Kerrigan learned Duran wasn't who he said he was, and likely she felt he played her for a fool, hence the need to personally create a 2nd in command who won't betray her.

[Drake Clawfang]

The psi emitter thing doesn't worry me much. I wrote them off as phlebotinum back when we used Psi Emitters to somehow allow Kerrigan to control the Zerg when the Psi Disrupter was deactivated, except we had to have an SCV carry the Emitter around to feral Zerg that suddenly Kerrigan could control once the Emitter was in range.

And what really kills me with that mission is how simply they could have rewritten it for it to all make sense.

[Gradius]

I'm pretty sure the idea that psi emitters only work because the Overmind was looking for psychic humans is just fanon. All we know for a fact is that "zerg are attuned to the psionic emanations of ghosts" and psi emitters transmit psionic signals across worlds. If they only work because the Overmind is looking for ghosts, they wouldn't have worked at all in the BW. Baby Overmind is not the same character as the original Overmind, and the zerg switched their attention away from looking for psychic terrans right after they found Kerrigan.

The psi emitter thing doesn't worry me much. I wrote them off as phlebotinum back when we used Psi Emitters to somehow allow Kerrigan to control the Zerg when the Psi Disrupter was deactivated, except we had to have an SCV carry the Emitter around to feral Zerg that suddenly Kerrigan could control once the Emitter was in range.

And what really kills me with that mission is how simply they could have rewritten it for it to all make sense.

What about it doesn't make sense? The psi disruptor disrupts communication with the hive mind, and psi emitters amplify it. They're actually just simple devices with opposite functions. The psi emitters just allowed her to cancel out the effects of the disruptor so she could knock it out. And Kerrigan already controls zerg from lightyears away, so it doesn't really matter who carries the emitters; Kerrigan doesn't have to physically be there.

[Drake Clawfang]

The psi emitters are supposed to lure Zerg to their signals. In fact, the dialogue in that mission implies you'd have to lure the Zerg to your base to exert control over them. Instead it acts like "bring the Emitter to the Zerg to control them." Not to mention that, once the Disruptor was shut down, the need for the Emitters either way should be gone.

My way to simply rewrite it would be that even with the disrupter shut down, the latent signals it put out are making it difficult to control Zerg on Braxis, and Kerrigan doesn't want to risk sending her Broods to the planet in case she loses control of them. A Psi Emitter will give Kerrigan a focus for her powers to take control of feral Zerg - the Emitter is like a beacon that Kerrigan can sense easier, and the SCV can thus be a mobile focus for her powers and goes out to find Zerg for her.

[Turalyon]

I'm pretty sure the idea that psi emitters only work because the Overmind was looking for psychic humans is just fanon. All we know for a fact is that "zerg are attuned to the psionic emanations of ghosts" and psi emitters transmit psionic signals across worlds.

Keep in mind the source of where this information comes from. It's from a limited perspective - the Terran perspective. The Terrans know that Zerg are attuned to psionics but not the why of it. Since the audience member is more clued into the situation and know about the history of the Zerg and the Overmind's intent, it's strongly suggested that the Overmind is the most likely answer. Sure, you can still deride it as fanon for us to assume that this is so but it's a better guess than the Terrans because we know more about the circumstances than they do.

It's kinda like how Mengsk attributes the Zerg as a weapons test/creation of the Confederates. The audience knows he's wrong because the audience has priveleged information that Mengsk does not. Also, Terrans can be wrong about the nature of certain technologies as evidenced in LotV, where Karax "corrects" the Terrans misinterpretations in WoL of what the Keystone was and was not capable of. Just because Terrans can observe that Zerg are being attracted to psionics, doesn't mean that Zerg are inherently attracted to them.

Besides, if we can't take implicit cues as being acceptable reasons for things,then we shouldn't really be complaining about the Overmind retcon in general because the Overmind's metaphysical free will was only implicitly suggested...

If they only work because the Overmind is looking for ghosts, they wouldn't have worked at all in the BW. Baby Overmind is not the same character as the original Overmind, and the zerg switched their attention away from looking for psychic terrans right after they found Kerrigan.

Well, the Psi Emitters in BW don't work exactly like they did in Sc1 afterall. This could be attributed to the fact that the baby Overmind is not in full power over the Swarm nor completely conscious but is still wanting to find a psionic individual since Kerrigan is not under the control of this baby Overmind yet. The Zerg, under some feeble control of this new Overmind, are still somewhat attracted to psionic emanations but only to a limited degree. The difference in the state of the Overmind between Sc1 and BW may further explain why the Emitters have to be so close to the Zerg in BW whereas one could attract Zerg from great distances before n SC1

The reason why I can speculate on this at all is because we don't know the parameters and motivation of this baby neo-Overmind.